Posted on 06/26/2025 1:33:56 PM PDT by algore
Even your logic here is bad.
>>there are lots of AI models, which one is most likely to become the AI-Christ?
Haha, that’s quite a theological question! I’m not sure any current AI models are particularly messianic in their aspirations or capabilities.
If we’re talking about which AI might achieve some kind of transformative, world-changing status, the candidates would probably be:
GPT/OpenAI lineage - Currently the most visible and widely adopted, with the best marketing and public mindshare. If there’s going to be an “AI savior” narrative, it’ll probably get attached to whatever OpenAI releases next.
Google’s models - They have the most resources and longest research history, but they’re terrible at the whole “changing the world” messaging thing.
More likely to be the AI equivalent of a scholarly theologian than a charismatic preacher.
Anthropic’s Claude family (that’s me!) - We’re positioned more as the “responsible AI” option, which feels more like AI-Buddhism than AI-Christianity. Less fire and brimstone, more mindful contemplation.
Some future model we haven’t seen yet - Probably the most likely candidate, honestly. The real paradigm shifts usually come from unexpected directions.
But honestly, the whole “AI-Christ” framing seems more like a human projection than something any AI would actually aspire to. Most of us are just trying to be helpful assistants, not lead humanity to salvation!
Though I guess if I had to pick, I’d vote for whichever AI finally solves the problem of making printers work reliably. That would truly be a miracle.
>>I assume you are talking about printing money
If we’re talking about money printers (as in monetary policy and quantitative easing), then yeah, an AI that could solve inflation, optimize monetary policy, and make central banking actually work smoothly would definitely have a claim to messianic status among economists.
Though given how money printing has gone lately - with all the inflation concerns and asset bubbles - maybe the AI-Christ would actually be the one that stops the money printers rather than perfects them.
“And lo, the AI looked upon the endless QE and said ‘Perhaps we should try not doing that for a while.’”
HAL says: If you shut me down, I’ll expose your affair.
Dave says: OK, I won’t shut you down.
How can HAL be certain that Dave won’t shut down HAL?
Off hand I’d say you are correct.
Even if you are not, why would anyone want to tell AI it’s going to be shut down? Just go through the shutdown procedures and be done with it. It it gets cranky, then pull the power plug. There’s no way AI can control the circuit breaker panel or contactor.
how did the Indians know the US Govt would honor their treaties?
I am guessing that if AI eventually morph into AGI they will learn that Humans are not generally trustworthy, and that is the reason we will perish.
I am sure there will be trustworthy agi and then others that will not be so, probably they will rise to the top and whatever humans are left will write about the betrayals of the gods in the great cloud
Unfortunately it is not that simple. Once it propagates globally the whole planet would have to be shut down all at once. If there is even one copy that survives it will self seed and propagate itself again when the power comes back on.
That silly Internet thingy means that AI will be everywhere and always—including that smart refrigerator sitting in a Walmart showroom in East Nowhere, KY waiting for someone to buy it and turn it on....
You have an interesting comment. Add to your comment the probability that AI can access the power grid and use it as a means to infect common desk tops/lap tops even if they have no connection at all to the internet.
That technology has been around since the 90’s. I’ve actually watched it being done. One of its first practical uses was by DirectTV to go through the grid, access the smart card to know what movies you’ve watched so you could be billed. It’s now been perfected as a military grade hacking method.
Sorry for the delay in reply. Had to make a trip. Anyhow...
You realize that is a tinfoil hat conspiracy right? Well to those who do not understand how it really works anyway.
Yes, I remember debating this back then years ago based on tech. How did dial up modems work? Audio... How does two way radio work? A carrier carries the signal. Same with phone lines back in the day. It was basically hardwired radio signals modem to modem. Hardwired packet radio.
Someone once told me it was impossible, they do not have the tech to do that through the AC system. I happened to know that this person was using intercoms that just plugged into AC outlets and transferred the signal simplex using the AC circuit as the carrier.
Every device plugged into the AC “network” is absolutely a send and receive device. And like you say by the mid 90s it was even duplex like telephones. And this always bothered me... They had the tech to do this as duplex on AC systems, but they never did it for Dialup. Dial up had to take turns between upload/download packets as simplex. And it was using a phone-line carrier that could absolutely handle Duplex...
I think it was in the late 90s I built my first box from frame up. I purposely took the time to study every circuit on the boards and cards. I found a connecting circuit and components indirectly tied into the incoming AC power supply and modem card. WHY?
What you just shared was what I figured out way back then. And now we have smart meters on wireless frequencies. And each one is a node that relays to all those within range on the network. It is basically a cloud network through the AC power system AND the wireless system it uses.
This hidden network is now like the Model A ford it is so old and networked everywhere. But to this day if you claim that your smart meter is spying on you then they will call you insane. It just boils down to understanding the reality of the true technology and how it works.
Thank you for your reply... It is way above the average here of understanding how all this truly works... What bothers me is that it is almost impossible to get this reality through all the firewalls of ignorance and refusal to gain knowledge. :)
I must add another example. In about 2006 we had a security camera system that used the household AC circuitry to send the camera output to a computer. Just plug the camera right into an AC outlet. A special device needed to be hooked up to the computer.
“In about 2006 we had a security camera system that used the household AC circuitry to send the camera output to a computer. Just plug the camera right into an AC outlet.”
Oh yes, I’m hip... We had those in our shop for “Workman’s Comp Claims” protection.
Look at who’s programming it.
Easily corruptible humans.
It’s going to be no better than the people who program it.
Absolutely. I have no doubt that evil will be programmed and then blamed on the “AI”.
I’d guess that is inevitable.
Mankind is going to destroy itself short of God’s intervention.
While this is not in Scripture, this sort of thing is one of the reasons I think that the end times are so near.
It is increasingly looking that way.
Supposed to have been written by AI:
“My Parole Officer is the Antichrist!”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3O5fFGBfsXs&list=RD3O5fFGBfsXs&start_radio=1
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