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Federal workers sue for the right to call for Trump's impeachment or to #Resist
ABC News ^ | August 14, 2019 | Anne Flaherty

Posted on 08/14/2019 11:36:40 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

The largest union of federal workers on Tuesday announced it's suing the U.S. government in a bid to get it to drop its latest rules restricting talk of presidential impeachment and whether they should #Resist.

The American Federation of Government Employees, which represents some 700,000 federal workers, said it was concerned that the latest guidance restricted free speech and could be weaponized by politically motivated managers, including those seeking to punish people who express support for the president.

AFGE National President J. David Cox Sr. said, "OSC's vague, overbroad guidance creates an opening for managers and political appointees to go after career civil servants for politically-motivated reasons."

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1 posted on 08/14/2019 11:36:40 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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Need to de-certify the union. Why do government workers need a union - were they being abused by their employer?
2 posted on 08/14/2019 11:40:14 PM PDT by Cowboy Bob ("Other People's Money" = The life blood of Liberalism)
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Is union membership required?


3 posted on 08/14/2019 11:46:53 PM PDT by northislander
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The American Federation of Government Employees, which represents some 700,000 federal workers....

That's not a workforce, that's the population of a large city. Unbelievable.

4 posted on 08/14/2019 11:51:50 PM PDT by 4Runner
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Impossible to fire...


5 posted on 08/14/2019 11:52:50 PM PDT by northislander
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To Hell with these a-holes. Outlaw public unions now!


6 posted on 08/14/2019 11:54:17 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

We need to go back to civil service without unions!!!


7 posted on 08/15/2019 12:03:12 AM PDT by faithhopecharity ( “Politicians are not born; they are excreted.” Marcus Tullius Cicero (106 to 43 BCE))
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Put them in prison. THis is subversion of the will of the people by a coup fomenting group of federal workers.

I wonder if the FBI is part of this group of state terrorists.


8 posted on 08/15/2019 12:04:09 AM PDT by JudgemAll (Democrats Fed. job-security in hatse:hypocrites must be gay like us or be tested/crucified)
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Typical AFGE posturing. Over the years their national leadership (some of whom were marginally intelligent) have constantly engage in media whore sensationalism over virtually every management issue. They loudly called for Nixon, Reagan and G W Bush’s impeachment. Right now feds and their representatives should shut up and avoid the media to the maximum.


9 posted on 08/15/2019 12:11:04 AM PDT by robowombat (Orthodox)
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AFGE. Nothing but a bunch of troublemakers. I was in a position for fifteen years that was “represented” by this bunch of lockstep democrat clowns. I never joined, by the way, because, thank God, I’m in a right to work state.


10 posted on 08/15/2019 12:14:09 AM PDT by Smellin Salt
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Unbelievable! I must have stepped into a parallel universe where evil is good, and good is evil.


11 posted on 08/15/2019 12:21:44 AM PDT by KittyKares (Drain the Swamp)
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Time to start electing members of Congress that want to start downsizing the federal government, right? Fat chance of that happening, especially from the Dem’s. But, I’d love to see a counter lawsuit or an EO that gets rid of forced membership if there is such a policy in place.

With FLSA being about as thick as the tax code, no need for the protections of organized unions in public sector jobs.


12 posted on 08/15/2019 12:48:21 AM PDT by qaz123
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In 2010, I arrived at a DC government job, and part of the inprocessing was the union rep giving a 15 min recruitment speech. From this group of 20 folks, with most having degrees or military time, not a single one was interested. Later, someone brought it up, fewer than five percent of civilians in the agency were union members.


13 posted on 08/15/2019 1:51:53 AM PDT by pepsionice
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14 posted on 08/15/2019 2:05:05 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (Denounce DUAC - The Democrats Un-American Activists Commitee)
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There should be no public sector Unions period.

This is why; they can and would be weaponized as a political army.


15 posted on 08/15/2019 3:05:28 AM PDT by Boomer (Our melting pot has turned into a pressure cooker)
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Bureaucracy Kills: A Lesson from Rome
16 posted on 08/15/2019 3:08:17 AM PDT by mewzilla (Break out the mustard seeds)
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To: northislander
Is union membership required?

I recently hired a young woman who asked me why she needed to do a union related activity as part of her check in process, since she did not join the union. So, perhaps it is not mandatory.

Most people do join the union. I suspect that they are intimidated into doing so by union officials who tell them that their rights as employees will not be protected if they do not join the union. However, labor law applies regardless of union membership. Personally, I would have no desire to join the union. I cannot join now, since I am in the armed forces.

The law restricts political activity by government employees. If the union got its way on this, I can foresee a lot of strife among government workers. Not everyone in government is a flaming liberal idiot.

17 posted on 08/15/2019 3:27:15 AM PDT by exDemMom (Current visual of the hole the US continues to dig itself into: http://www.usdebtclock.org/)
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No., it’s optional. I was “bargaining unit” for most of my career and never paid dues.


18 posted on 08/15/2019 3:31:47 AM PDT by Not A Snowbird (I trust President Trump.)
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Government unions of all kinds need to be eliminated.


19 posted on 08/15/2019 3:34:06 AM PDT by PGR88
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Interesting article. Thank you for posting it.


20 posted on 08/15/2019 3:40:57 AM PDT by exDemMom (Current visual of the hole the US continues to dig itself into: http://www.usdebtclock.org/)
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