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Wishing for Trump’s impeachment? 5 reasons the next president could be even more dangerous
Salon ^ | October 21, 2017 | Jacob Sugarman, Alternet

Posted on 10/21/2017 10:57:36 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

From the moment he was elected, liberals have clung to the possibility, however remote, that Donald Trump will be removed from office. They've fallen for the conspiracy theories of #Resistance hucksters like Louise Mensch, Claude Taylor and Eric Garland, and continue to hold out hope the Mueller investigation will bring his corrupt presidency crashing down. Just this week, law professor and short-lived presidential candidate Lawrence Lessig laid out a series of preposterous if/then scenarios explaining how Hillary Clinton could still become president, almost a year after her shocking defeat.

If Jane Mayer's latest feature is any indication, the left should be very careful what it wishes for. In a detailed story for the New Yorker, the "Dark Money" author offers a sweeping profile of Vice President Mike Pence, from his days as a candidate for Congress to his disastrous tenure as governor of Indiana. And while much of her reporting is a matter of public record, her findings are no less revelatory. What emerges from her conversations with Pence's family, associates and political rivals is a portrait of a ruthless authoritarian whose bigotry, homophobia and free-market radicalism supersede his Christian faith.

Ultimately, Mike Pence has more in common with his reality-show running mate than meets the eye; as his own brother is willing to admit, "he's full of shit." If his positions on key issues aren't necessarily worse than Trump's, they're at least as reactionary — and far more rigid.

Here are five of the most distressing revelations from Mayer's report.

1. He's in the pocket of the Koch brothers

The right-wing billionaires have donated hundreds of thousands to Pence's gubernatorial campaigns, and their contributions are already paying enormous dividends. Thanks to the vice president, who effectively commandeered the transition team from Chris Christie, Trump has stocked his administration with Koch family favorites like Betsy DeVos (Secretary of Education), Don McGahn (White House counsel) and Scott Pruitt (administrator of the Environmental Protection Agency).

“If Pence were to become president for any reason, the government would be run by the Koch brothers — period," Sen. Sheldon Whitehouse, D-R.I., said. "He's been their tool for years."

Even Steve Bannon would appear to agree, admitting, "I'm concerned he'd be a president that the Kochs would own."

2. He's openly disdainful of science

Not only has Pence dismissed climate change as an invention of environmentalists and a "Chicken Little attempt to raise taxes," he's largely responsible for helping kill a cap-and-trade bill that would have taxed major corporations for carbon pollution. During his time in Congress, he railed against the legislation as the "largest tax increase in American history" — a claim that was patently untrue. "His language," Mayer notes, "echoed that of the Koch groups."

During his time at the Indiana Policy Review Foundation, a right-wing think tank modeled after the American Enterprises Institute, Pence penned an essay parroting the talking points of the tobacco industry. "Smoking doesn’t kill," he wrote. "In fact, two out of every three smokers doesn’t die from a smoking-related illness.” The country's greatest hazard? “Big government disguised as do-gooder, health care rhetoric.”

Pence also believes that intelligent design is the only “remotely rational explanation for the known universe," and that “educators around America must teach evolution not as fact but as theory."

3. He's a virulent homophobe

Much has been written about Pence's willingness to direct federal funds to anti-gay conversion therapy programs, but Mayer focuses on his support for the Religious Freedom Restoration Act, which "essentially legalized discrimination against homosexuals by businesses in the state."

When Pete Buttigieg, the gay mayor of South Bend, tried to confront Pence about the bigoted nature of the bill and its potential to harm Indiana's economy, he was stonewalled. “He got this look in his eye,” Buttigieg told the New Yorker. “He just inhabits a different reality. It’s very difficult for him to lay aside the social agenda. He’s a zealot.”

Pence's animus for the LGBT community has not been lost on the president. When the subject of gay rights was recently broached at the White House, Trump reportedly gestured to his VP, quipping, “Don’t ask that guy — he wants to hang them all!”

4. He's determined to roll back women's rights.

Pence has made a name for himself as an anti-abortion crusader, backing "personhood" legislation that would ban abortions unless a woman's life is at stake, even in cases of rape and incest. He sponsored an amendment to the Affordable Care Act that would have legally allowed hospitals to turn away dying women before terminating their pregnancies. And at the Indiana Policy Review Foundation, he advocated that married women be denied access to birth control.

Vi Simpson, the former Democratic minority leader of the Indiana State Senate, told the New Yorker she believes it is Pence's "mission" to "reverse women’s economic and political advances."

5. His economic ideas are a proven disaster.

Trump has called Indiana a model for his forthcoming tax plan, "a tremendous example of the prosperity that is unleashed when we cut taxes.” But like Sam Brownback's Kansas, the Hoosier State has offered yet another cautionary tale for the dangers of trickle-down economics. According to Mayer, the tax cuts Mike Pence imposed have saved his constituents a grand total of $3.50 per month.

"Pence claimed that the cut stimulated the economy," Mayer writes, "but John Zody, the chairman of the state’s Democratic Party, told me, 'Our per-capita income is thirty-eighth in the nation, and not climbing.'"

Read Jane Mayer's entire piece at the New Yorker.


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To: 2ndDivisionVet

No one could ever be as “dangerous” as Obonzo was.


21 posted on 10/21/2017 12:39:54 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Has Sheila JACKSON LEE changed her name yet?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
'Our per-capita income is thirty-eighth in the nation, and not climbing.'"

Michigan is 36th. Tourists from Indiana think our groceries are expensive.

We moved here from Washington state and pay about 1/4 for better food than we bought out there.

Income is not the entire story.

22 posted on 10/21/2017 12:53:44 PM PDT by MarMema
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To: MarMema

What if enough Republicans in the house switched parties after Nov. 2018 to give the rats the majority for 10 weeks? It would still take 67 Senators to convict. Can an impeached Trump run for reelection in 2020? Win big in 18’ and we won’t need him for more than 4 years.


23 posted on 10/21/2017 1:55:08 PM PDT by DIRTYSECRET (urope. Why do they put up with this.)
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To: InABunkerUnderSF
Sure, Salon doesn’t like Trump but they left out the most important reason not to impeach him from their perspective. The civil war that would follow would result in the deaths of hundreds of swamp dwelling politicians, deep state functionaries and they journalist enablers.

Status-post Trump's impeachment (or assassination), the accumulated animosity between factions could result in an inter-cultural slaughter of millions in the first few months. My guess is that the Chinese with or without the Russians would attempt an invasion of the western US, southwestern Canada or northwest Mexico to stabilize a full invasion route.

I'd love to see a competent military analysis of possible scenarios of a second civil war.
24 posted on 10/21/2017 2:15:05 PM PDT by farming pharmer
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To: alloysteel

Regardless of how stellar your logic process, there are some things that just shouldn’t be said on the Forum.


25 posted on 10/21/2017 2:53:39 PM PDT by Albion Wilde (I was not elected to continue a failed system. I was elected to change it. --Donald J. Trump)
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To: alloysteel
Some claim to be overthrowing the feds on Nov 4th. Antifa and friends...

Sounds childish and overblown but who knows what they have access to?

26 posted on 10/22/2017 6:19:05 AM PDT by MarMema
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