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Another idiot! This woman is unmarried and has no children. Just because I don’t answer all the questions here doesn’t mean what you think it means. Let’s face it, some of you guys just don’t like ANY women.

To those who aren’t stupid: Charles Murray wrote a book called “Losing Ground” about the separation/isolation between the wealthy and the middle class. Part of what the problem was, according to Murray, is that men are no longer marrying “down” (ie, the secretary, the receptionist, etc.) but are insisting on marrying someone with the same educational background and profession. You see this to the enth degree in Washington, DC. This has isolated lower middle class and middle-middle class people from highly educated and wealthy people and hampered women’s mobility and her children’s mobility.

This is a fact that is ignored by people who only know history from when they were born. Apparently, for most here, that’s about 2002.

I also asked if that woman was a single mom and didn’t get a reply. I think we know why her friend is unmarried.

The devil’s in the details, isn’t it? ;-)

I confess that I’m troubled by the sheer quantity of judgementalism by a couple of women on this thread but, truth be told, I have my own judgementalism streak that I have to deal with. It annoys my wife.

To wit. We moved from Seattle to central, rural kentucky and I’m simply floored by the sheer quantity of FAT, Tatooed, chain smoking single women in their twenties driving around in barely running cars with a kid or three in tow.

They have sealed their fate at a VERY young age and, truth be told, are a product of their upbringing. And most of the folks here go to church. But it is more a cultural thing than a religious thing.

There is also a LOT of meth and other drug use among them.

And I can discuss some of the guys too, but with them it’s different attributes. Either would be poison to any of my kids.

Frankly, it just saddens me. Our culture has destroyed a lot of lives in rural America.