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To: AMDG&BVMH

I was not asking you to analyze anything. I’m going with what has been released by the authorities in Waco and have not seen any announcement of any charges beyond RICO.

What interests me most about this matter is the reasons that the authorities have and are going to advance for detaining 170 of what I assume to be American citizens.

I was interested to find that, according to AP’s look at public records, 117 of those being held on the RICO charge have no convictions on record. Is wearing gang colors and / or being found in a public place where criminals are or a crime has been committed probable cause for an arrest for RICO, regardless of ones own history?

When Giuliani used RICO to decapitate the mob in NYC, he had specific intel on specific individuals. And he obtained warrants.

The use and misuse of RICO could do with some looking into. I am personally aware of how RICO was used to neuter Operation Rescue back in the 90’s.


682 posted on 05/26/2015 6:50:45 AM PDT by don-o (He will not share His glory and He will NOT be mocked! Blessed be the name of the Lord forever!)
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To: don-o

“announcement of any charges beyond RICO”

i.e. per your previous comment, no murder charges . . .

Well my guess that has to do with the crime scene.

Specifically, they need witness statements from everyone, independently of each other and independently of what the videos show. My take is that is why the videos have not been released to the public yet.

They have the weapons, they did imaging of the scene to locate where the bodies and wounded were, where any casings and bullets were. Presumably they know which weapons were fired and which likely were not fired at the scene and which weapon was in the possession of which person, suspects and LE alike.

The forensic evidence is not going to be easy to sort out, unless the video and / or witness testimony also point to who shot whom.


697 posted on 05/26/2015 8:39:32 AM PDT by AMDG&BVMH
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To: don-o

“What interests me most about this matter is the reasons that the authorities have and are going to advance for detaining 170 of what I assume to be American citizens.”

I haven’t seen the charges but from what I have read about the Texas Confederation of Clubs and Independents it seems to qualify as a RICO organization.


701 posted on 05/26/2015 11:33:41 AM PDT by TexasGator
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To: don-o

“What interests me most about this matter is the reasons that the authorities have and are going to advance for detaining 170 of what I assume to be American citizens.”


__________ did then and there, as a member of a criminal street gang, commit or conspire to commit murder, capital murder, or aggravated assault against the laws of the State.

Affidavit goes on to specifically name Bandidos and Cossacks.


703 posted on 05/26/2015 11:43:35 AM PDT by TexasGator
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