Posted on 03/03/2015 12:32:27 PM PST by two134711
Thank you Free Republic for allowing me to post and vent on this site for over ten years. I am a young, married conservative woman who is trying to raise her daughter to be a fine, upstanding lady, an educated woman and a worthy wife to a decent man. Despite the stupidity of my generation (I am on the cusp of GenX and GenY) there is hope. Many young people are more prolife than ever. And at last, many others are beginning to open their eyes to the lies of socialism.
However recent events on this site like witnessing the discord between fellow believers of Christ and how the Religious moderators have given carte blanche to those who wish to spread hate is not something I want to be part of.
I received this message from the Religion Moderator regarding Key words received 03/02/2015 8:45:19 PM PST
DO NOT use keywords to snipe at other posters or beliefs. RM
I certainly did not post key words that sniped at anyone; they were terms such as "enough already, Christianity, unity and "peace." Now, yes, the comments I made were invectives thrown at posters. I don't deny that; but they deserved every word directed at them and more. Outside of Caucus threads the religious forum is based on sniping at posters and insulting other's beliefs. Mostly its a few alleged Evangelicals damning those Papists, pedophiles, pagans, cracker-eaters, cannibals and Mary-worshipping heretics to Hell if they don't convert to the Western Branch of American Reform Presbylutheranism or the Northern Conservative Baptist Great Lakes Region Council of 1879. Then a very small contingent of Catholics tries to fight back.
These are the kind of comments are allowed on the religious forums without any moderation.
"I believe that Catholicism has caused more people to go to hell then [sic] Islam."
84 posted on 2/23/2015, 2:36:42 PM by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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**Have you accepted the Catholic Church** "I have accepted Jesus. Not some abomination created by man."
98 posted on 2/23/2015, 2:46:17 PM by Gamecock (Joel Osteen is a minister of the Gospel like Captain Crunch is a Naval line officer.)
I have no skin in this game other than to realize that Christians (and Jews) are not each others enemies. There is a much more diabolical force in this world that should be fought. Anti-theists, Islamists, secular amoralists, etc., they're nothing. But, hey, keep going after Catholics and Mormons because they're the ones ruining the world today!
I said those words because it was the truth, (a truth that many others see but do not mention; they merely avoid the conflicts). If the anti-Catholic delusional bigots have a problem with the truth, then a pox on their houses.
I have posted on and off this site for over ten years. Every time I come back here I think to myself, Wow, FR is one of the only sites telling it like it is when it comes to politics! But then the OCD religious posters take control over and over again. Its not just the religious forums, but theyre the worst. In the past the moderation was far more even-handed. Now its out of control. Please use more judiciousness in moderating them in the future.
You are losing members left and right and your fundraisers take months to complete. I am aware that the owner of this site, Mr. Robinson, is a Catholic, and Im sure it breaks his heart to see such infighting amongst fellow Christians. I hope his health betters and that he can continue to fight the goof fight.
Nevertheless, FR's days as a premium conservative site are over. There a quite a few decent folks around here like Mrs. Don-0, xzins, Morgana, miss marmelstein, wardaddy, that fellow named something like yefrugeturbrumuy, and lots of others. There are many good folks with diverse opinions and no malice in their hearts.
But some others seem possessed by other-world forces. Mostly they're old people scared of death, wanting to make sure they get in with God before the end, desperate to hold on to every penny they've ever come across, willing to kvetch about the future and frequently mentioning how glad they'll be when they're dead and won't have to deal with this world, while their children and grandchildren will. Or worse, they actively wish for the world to end today or soon. Sorry, I'm young enough to have a smidgen of hope despite the moral disaster this world is in.
The Apple squabbles, the griping about TV and art, heck even the "my candidate is better than your candidate" bloodletting is nothing compared to the nutters that run rampant on the religion forum.
So Religious moderator, if you thought my key words were examples of sniping, then I suppose this post was outright bashing. Every time I come to this site I get angry. Anger opens up the heart to dark forces; its best not to be part of that.
Got to go. May peace come to this once wonderful site and make it a place of harmony for future posters.
I’ll defend his right to say it that Catholics are worse than Muslims. I will also exercise my right to free speech and call him out on it. Freedom of speech is a two-way street.
I'll be praying for you MamaB that all goes well and you have a complete healing and return of your vision.
That “get help” comment. How does that fit into “I respect your beliefs”?
Evidently the answer is that we deserve it and to them it’s attacking. Odd that.
Catholics sure do get personal quickly.
But you originally stated:
So, which is it? FR Catholics do not attack Protestants in threads or FR Catholics only "rarely" attack Protestants?
Perhaps you could give a few examples of what you term "Catholic-hating" or "anti-Catholic" threads that get posted here several times a day? I know I could give you numerous recent threads posted by Catholics that DO attack Protestants/Evangelicals - not all that rare, either.
Your response is to #1, the screed in the body of the thread.
So you would like to say:
I) Religious moderators have given carte blanche to those who wish to spread hate...That is an interesting statement being as Protestants many times are told they can't be Christians unless they are Catholics.2) the comments I made were invectives thrown at posters
3) they deserved every word directed at them and more
4) Mostly its a few alleged Evangelicals damning those Papists, pedophiles, pagans, cracker-eaters, cannibals and Mary-worshipping heretics to Hell if they don't convert to the Western Branch of American Reform Presbylutheranism or the Northern Conservative Baptist Great Lakes Region Council of 1879.
Which is backed up by Catholicism:
...on November 18, 1302, Pope Boniface VIII made an extraordinarily bold statement: "Now, therefore, we declare, say, determine and pronounce that for every human creature it is necessary for salvation to be subject to the authority of the Roman pontiff."And two134711 please provide a link to show where you got the bolded area in (4 above. Thanks."...we are obliged to believe and to maintain that the Church is one, holy, catholic, and also apostolic. We believe in her firmly and we confess with simplicity that outside of her there is neither salvation nor the remission of sins"
Salvation, here is another one that you say you would like to say:
5) In the past the moderation was far more even-handed. Now its out of control.
Perhaps you would like to tell the Religion Moderator that?
6) I am aware that the owner of this site, Mr. Robinson, is a Catholic.
You want to say that? It's not true you know.
7) Mostly they're [posters on the RF] old people scared of death, wanting to make sure they get in with God before the end, desperate to hold on to every penny they've ever come across, willing to kvetch about the future and frequently mentioning how glad they'll be when they're dead and won't have to deal with this world.
LOL I can't see you saying that, but it's part of what you say you "would like to say." It's just an opinion that comes from bitterness, anger and an admitted non-Christian. But whatever floats your boat....
Lets end with this, which the both of you say or "would like to say:"
Every time I come to this site I get angry. Anger opens up the heart to dark forces; its best not to be part of that.If that is what happens with the two of you, I would suggest you not look at or post on the RF except for devotion or caucus threads.
The anger needs to be given to Jesus [not sure if Gnostics can do that], He can help you.
Nothing wrong with anger if dealt with correctly [if it takes you to "dark places" it's a big problem] as the Bible says "Be ye angry but sin not."
It’s an amazing thing to watch the double mindedness.
And I have not seen a Catholic condemn the Catholic Church for the obvious lack of understanding that the Muslim god is not the God of scripture. I think part of the problem with my comment is that Catholics can’t be sure of salvation and fear.
Got a link for that?
The post didn't say that.
Thanks I will. They are doing all they can right now for her. It’s in GOD’s Hands.
The problem isn’t with the picture, liking it or not liking it is not the issue.
The issue is a pope not understanding who God is:
“Muslims, ...together with us they adore the one, merciful God”
Islam does NOT adore the God of the Bible, and the head of the Catholic Church needs to understand that and retract his statement.
Otherwise, as there is only one Holy Biblical God, the pope needs to clarify which one Catholics should “adore”...the real Biblical one of the god (satan) of Islam.
Can’t have it both ways.
This has always been a tough place !!!
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Oh you FOOLISH Galatians!
Who has bewitched you?
Galatians 3:1
I said "seems to" simply because my reading strongly hints at it, and the policy doesn't spell out every conceivable violation. Some excerpts with my comments following:
"For something to be "making it personal" it must be speaking to another Freeper, personally."Protestants are heretics" is not making it personal. "You are a heretic" is making it personal. "Catholics worship Mary" is not making it personal. "You worship Mary" is making it personal. "Mormons worship many gods" is not making it personal. "You worship many gods" is making it personal.
"You fool" can fit this pattern. I can imagine "'Presbylutherans are fools' is not making it personal. 'You are a fool' is making it personal."
Another example, a poster may say on an open RF thread that a particular belief, diety, religious authority, etc. is "Satanic." But he must not say "You are Satanic." That would be "making it personal." The Bible is always a legitimate source on the Religion Forum, so a poster might quote the Bible where Jesus called Peter "Satan." If a post serves no debate purpose (flame bait or "making it personal" by devious means) - it would be pulled.
The juxtaposition of "The Bible is always a legitimate source" and "by devious means," in my reading, is at least a hint about two things. Biblical quotations in themselves do not count as violations of Religion Forum policy, but a post can use "devious means"--including misusing the scriptures. Recall that the devil himself (see Matthew 4:5-7) is an example of misusing the scriptures. I will venture that "The Bible is always a legitimate source..." does not provide a Bible-quoting post immunity from Religion Forum disciplinary measures when the moderator determines that a violation has occurred in how the quotation is used.
"When in doubt, avoid the use of the pronoun "you" and Freeper's names - or put yourself in the other guy's shoes."
I would suppose that addressing others as "you fool" would be even worse than a simple accusatory (even inflammatory) use of "you."
All in all, I would not recommend that people try it as a form of address--even without the warning in Matthew 5:22. Before anyone uses a similar form of address, those of us who believe that the Bible is inspired would do well to ask ourselves if the same Spirit that inspired Paul inspires us.
This thread is not in the Religion Forum.
Context from http://freerepublic.com/~religionmoderator/ , for anyone who doesn't know it:
Guidelines concerning Hatred on the Religion Forum:Certain sources have been determined to monger hatred of persons and are forbidden. Sources that link to those sources are also forbidden. These include Jack Chick, Jesus-is-Lord.com, Jesus-is-Savior.com, BibleBelievers.com, Vdare, KKK, Aryan Nations, National Alliance, Christian Identity, the false Jesuit Oath, the false Oath of the Knights of Columbus, fatimamovement.com, anti-Semitic sources, The Masonic Plan For The Destruction Of The Catholic Church.
For example, a post or article that merely mentions Chick will be pulled.
Again, this thread is not on the Religion Forum. At the same time, it's interesting to see this thread going to such a source.
I know (cf. what I just posted in #479). I'm speaking about the Religion Forum because this thread concerns it. (I'm speaking secondarily about conduct elsewhere as well: if someone thinks that "you fool" is a helpful form of address, someone should expect interesting responses.)
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