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Driving Ukrainians Into Putin’s Arms
NYT opinions ^ | DEC. 8, 2014 | Lev Golinkin

Posted on 12/08/2014 10:19:25 PM PST by wetphoenix

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To: caww

No sympathy from me. They should sleep in that bed now. At least oligarchs are still rich and politicians are still pocketing money. The rest got a ‘European choice’ to be a $10 prostitutes or picking pockets in the West. Business as usual in Ukieland.


61 posted on 12/09/2014 10:11:02 PM PST by wetphoenix
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Ukraine will need "additional bailout" financing..... (Noteworthy)...from 'outside the International Monetary Fund' .....to keep the war-torn economy afloat"...said Christine Lagarde at a 'Bretton Woods' Committee event on the sidelines of the annual IMF and World Bank meetings of finance ministers and central bankers.

Further she said..."To assume that the additional funding will have to come from the IMF, I think is rather far-fetched," ... "If the economy has to be restored and stability maintained, money will have to come from multiple sources."

IMF will now require the US to assume Ukraines "debt" and control....Ukraine will have no choice but to do things our way. Sad for Ukraine....they made an awful bed they're going to have to sleep in...yet again...


62 posted on 12/09/2014 10:15:31 PM PST by caww
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

I don’t answer your question when I don’t know answers because, unlike you, I don’t want to throw accusations based on imagination.
I want to believe that US is not involved with islamic terrorists but I know for sure that some individuals and organizations in US are involved indeed.
As for an American Committee for Chechnya it is not a secret society. You can learn who were members from open sources.


64 posted on 12/09/2014 10:22:58 PM PST by wetphoenix
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

...”You and Caww have accused the United States of having control over Al-Qaeda affiliated terrorist groups”....

You can stop dragging my name into your arguements any time....as well... stating falsehoods I have not mentioned.

I realize you likely have animosity toward anything Russia does as the history you’ve shared would attest to. But we live in a very undstable world right now with some nasty business going on by all the major players which none of them should be excluded from being discussed.

Many times people on these threads have attested they are not taking sides but want to know the truth of what’s happening...at the very least what is being stated by these players on the World Stage. If you stop the debate/conversation by name calling and creating chaos on the threads then the truth will never be known. Is that what your intentions are?

My gut wrentches when I see what our Administration is doing not only in our own country but the decisive actions and maniplulations doing abroad, or refusing to do that needs doing of...and costing this country billions and much more.

There’s an ugly evil movement on the world stage that’s bent on destroying the sovernity of every nation and the freedoms of all peoples....if we cannot name those involved as they appear to be, and speak candidly how we view them, then how can we ever fight against what we do not know?

You of all people should know this better than others.

We don’t live in the world as it once was but have to deal with it as it really is....and obviously few that have any comfort in how the nation leaders are handling things they could and should be handling far better than what is happening...and surely this includes our own country’s leaders as it stands currently.

So I will continue to bring information to the threads which I think may shed some light on International Affairs....the truth is somewhere in between it all...and it is that most seek who care and love our country.


71 posted on 12/10/2014 1:07:52 AM PST by caww
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You can stop dragging my name into your arguements any time....as well... stating falsehoods I have not mentioned.

Your words:

"US just showed Russia in Chechnya they can hit them just like they blamed Russia for doing so in Crimea....."

So what "just" happened in Chechnya recently, you anti-American dog, and by whom?

You of all people should know this better than others.

You are a troll who just lied to my face, and you have been my implacable enemy since the Ukraine crisis started, filled with deceit and malice. Now you say "You of all people should know... etc"? Are you trying to act as if there is common ground between me, an American, and you, a traitor?

72 posted on 12/10/2014 2:43:17 AM PST by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

It's all about geopolitics.

When CNN repeats Washington's position it's freedom of the press.

When RT repeats Moscow's position it's government propaganda

...and vice-versa

73 posted on 12/10/2014 12:57:01 PM PST by caww
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To: caww

When RT repeats Moscow’s position and is owned by Moscow it is propaganda.


74 posted on 12/10/2014 3:16:09 PM PST by tlozo
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To: tlozo

You entirely missed the point.


75 posted on 12/10/2014 3:25:17 PM PST by caww
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To: wetphoenix

A little geography lesson for he folks over in Times Square.

76 posted on 01/31/2015 6:37:53 PM PST by Gay State Conservative (Obama;America's First "Third World" President)
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