VA: No proof that delays in care caused deaths at Phoenix hospital

The Associated Press ^ | August 25, 2014 | STEPHEN OHLEMACHER

[Rabin]

The VA Inspector has been investigating the deaths for months and has now shared draft of his findings with Top Officials. The new VA Secretary McDonald said: "It is important to note" that while the report documents deficiencies in quality and substantial delays in care, OIG was unable to conclusively assert that the absence of quality or care directly caused the death of any these victims.

This May, the inspector found that 1,700 veterans, waiting for primary care appointments at the Phoenix VA, did not show up on the wait list. An additional 1,800 will have to wait at three to eleven months for appointments, if currently listed, while employees clarify records to ensure nu-interrupted benefits.

VA has said it is firing three executives and says it plans to fire two more and perhaps discipline four additional employees nationwide for creative independent manipulation of federal records for personal gain. "The fundamental point here is, we are taking bold and decisive action to fix problems..." Gibson said.

[Rabin]

The Department of Veterans Affairs says investigators have found no proof that delays in care cause any death at a VA hospitals. Furthermore, not a single dead Vet has come forward to refute McDonald's directed findings.

Rab.

[FreedomStar3028]

The people that write this garbage actually think people will believe it.

The worst part of it is that people actually do believe it.

What a joke. Common sense does not exist. THE DEATHS AREN’T THE PROBLEM MORON, WE KNOW PEOPLE DIE. THEY ARE VETS AND THEY SHOULD HAVE BEEN CARED FOR. DUMB -—— IDIOT.

I hate morons.

[blackdog]

"VA has said it is firing three executives and says it plans to fire two more and perhaps discipline four additional employees nationwide for creative independent manipulation of federal records for personal gain."

Uhmmmmmm.....Isn't that supposed to be evidence of felonies? Aren't federal thieves going to jail any more?

[Cold Heat]

OIG was unable to conclusively assert that the absence of quality or care directly caused the death of any these victims.

They could not do that if they died on the doorstep.

Like I'm supposed to believe that?

[tumblindice]

clarify records= falsify records. Unless they can prove it, I wouldn’t believe a thing uttered by an Obama minion.
By “prove it”: authenticity, chain of evidence, best evidence, etc.
The IRS is showing us now that any beltway agency or bureau doesn’t deserve the benefit of any doubt.

[TigerClaws]

Agree.

Across the country VA officials lied and got BONUS PAYMENTS of tax dollars.

Where are the prosecutions?

They don’t want the headlines as it’s politically damaging.

[Nifster]

That’s right it wasn’t the VA’s fault because after all the patient had cancer and they just couldn’t get time to see them or treat them......so obviously it is the patient’s fault

criminitly

[dalebert]

This lets you know what value internal investigations are worth. zip