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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans; All

“These guys are not normal posters.”

You will note how this works...
He makes NOT ONE comment about any of the articles, and if you check his posting history, you’ll notice that it just isn’t RT or Russian sources it objects to, but ANY source that isn’t whatever today’s Kiev Propaganda happens to be.

This is Propaganda trolling in the classic sense, designed to obscure and obsfuscate away from whatever might make its masters in Kiev look bad.

This particular hypocrite has gotten several threads (Not just RT ones) deleted by the mods for “Too much Infighting”, all of it created by him. Out of the 25 posts on this thread, only THREE are about the subject at hand, proving what I am saying.

How this one is allowed to continually insult and accuse, on FR, is frankly beyond me.

There can be no sensible and adult conversation about the facts under such conditions. Which is EXACTLY what it hopes to achieve.


31 posted on 08/09/2014 12:24:38 AM PDT by tcrlaf (Q)
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To: tcrlaf; All

Let Freepers call your lying bluff. I do it all the time, and usually with good results.


32 posted on 08/09/2014 12:26:10 AM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: tcrlaf
I think the primary beef here and what is upsetting the posters who attack you is pretty much as they have stated about your reliance on RT and other pro-Russian outlets.

For me while I agree that it's Russian propaganda, I think my criticism runs a bit deeper.

I am not so sure you really understand European politics.

While some activists on what is called the European far right, associate themselves with Hitler, openly and defiantly, there are reasons for it politically.

It's a anti-communist movement, that goes back decades. Hitler was anti-Communist, as was Mussolini, one of Hitlers mentors. But it does not mean that the European right supports everything Hitler did or thought, because the NAZI party, long defunct, was a socialist movement.

When you bring Putin and today's Russia into the mix as their adversary, the political divide closes back up because Putin is also European style right wing. So the real division is really over the rights of the sovereign state of the Ukraine as it always has been going back to Stalin and earlier.

The constant harping about the nature of this European right wing government with alliances of necessity with the more ultra right wing “Beastie Boys” is the same sort of alliances you will find in any right wing coalition in Europe, although they tone it down a bit.

In Europe the right is always associated with Nazi's, but in the US the liberals tried but failed to make that association here, however they actually believe it, and think it every day.

This nasty vengeful attitude stems from Hitler's hatred of Communists so it follows that the US liberals and their communist alliances, would naturally have that view.

So what you really have in Kiev, is not a Nazi issue. That is a diversion that is fostered to damage support for Kiev.

The real fight is between Putin and Ukraine's nationalist desires to remain independent and free.

On the other side you have Putin and alliances with his Russian supporters in the Ukraine and of course the communists align themselves with Putin...as do the Chinese Communists.

So you need to make up your mind about who to support without letting all this Nazi stuff affect your judgment.

I have done so.

46 posted on 08/09/2014 12:58:50 AM PDT by Cold Heat (Have you reached your breaking point yet? If not now....then when?)
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