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To: Rabin

It underperforms in every fighter measure compared to our current fighter, and in every potential adversary. Its obese, suffers from low thrust, and high wing loads.

Even its defenders don’t pretend its a dog fighting hot rod. They simply point out that its electronics and fire control, and integration make dogfighting pointless.
Essentially claiming that those things will always win in any air combat encounter.

But if that was the case, a B-2 with the same missiles could defeat any enemy force.

Facts are stubborn things, it cannot outrun, outclimb, or out turn a Suhkoi, an F-15, an F-16, or an F-15.


9 posted on 07/15/2014 9:32:37 PM PDT by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: DesertRhino

“Facts are stubborn things, it cannot outrun, outclimb, or out turn a Suhkoi, an F-15, an F-16, or an F-15.”

Just wondering - do you mean F 14 or F 18? You used F 15 twice.


10 posted on 07/15/2014 9:38:32 PM PDT by MichaelCorleone (Jesus Christ is not a religion. He's the Truth.)
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To: DesertRhino
Essentially claiming that those things will always win in any air combat encounter.

I seem to recall the same sort of things being said at the beginning of the Viet Nam war. The F4 Phantom was a fighter designed without a gun.

The DC brainiacs were wrong then... How much smarter are they now?

Mark

25 posted on 07/16/2014 12:43:16 AM PDT by MarkL (Do I really look like a guy with a plan?)
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