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What do you mean NOT IN ENGLAND? Obama wasn't born in England, was he? He claims to be an American citizen.

BTW - "The most common name suffixes are senior and junior, most frequent in American usage, which are written with a capital first letter ("Jr." and "Sr.") with or without an interceding comma. In England, the abbreviations are "Jnr" and "Snr", respectively.

Not amongst the Gentry.

Where do you think George VI came from?

The poms count their generations by number. If it’s the fifth George who inherits the family wealth, he’s George V.

The Kenyan did have a son in Hawaii. It just wasn’t zero, he named him after himself, and as he was planning to start a dynasty on his return to Kenya, he named the child (what you call pretentious) BHO II.

The man WAS pretentious. For a man who spoke with a fake upper-class British accent that he parroted from his Anglican teachers at Maseno, any pretentious english custom would do.

Since you are cut and pasting from a Wikipedia page. I will cut and paste the following paragraph that you conveniently left out:

Alternatively, Jr's are sometimes referred to as "II". However, the original name carrier relative a "II" is named for is generally an uncle, cousin, or ancestor (including grandfather). The suffix "III" is used after either Jr or II and like subsequent numeric suffixes, does not need to happen in one family line. For example, if Randall and Patrick Dudley are brothers and if Randall has a son before Patrick, he will call his son Patrick, II. If Patrick now has a son, his son is Patrick, Jr. As time passes, the III suffix goes to the son of either Patrick Jr or Patrick II, whomever is first to have a son Patrick. This is one way it is possible and correct for a Jr. to father a IV. Another example involves President Ulysses S. Grant and his sons Frederick, Ulysses Jr, and Jesse. When Frederick's son Ulysses was born in 1881, Ulysses Jr did not yet have a son named after himself. Therefore, Frederick's son was Ulysses III. Ulysses Jr's son, born afterwards in 1893, was Ulysses IV. Jesse's son Chapman was the father of Ulysses V, as neither Ulysses III nor Ulysses IV had sons named for themselves.

At the time of Obama’s birth, Kenya was still under British rule therefore he would be considered a citizen of Britain/England....if he was born in Kenya, as many say he was. I do not know, but would like to see it tried in the Supreme Court.

Btw, I’m an Australian, a member of the British Commonwealth, and I can honestly tell you, that in all of my long life, I have never met a Jr.

A boy might be referred to as junior if he has the same name as his father, but on a birth certificate, as part of his name?

Never.

Neither have I run across a II or what-ever as part of a name. But in english lit and history, it’s quite common.