Posted on 07/25/2013 3:53:02 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
I hope you point out the false assertions in what most people you know "feel".
911?
It was a call to a non-emergency number from what I remember.
He was observing, what do you think he was doing?
It is time to call it for what it is...
The main-stream-media is deliberately advancing an overtly racist agenda.
Well this is what happens when you don’t fight back against these lying evil bastards. They keep coming like some monster from a horror movie. MoM better get off his ass or direct Zimmerman to a pitbull who can defend him better in the media and take on all these liars. Also hiring a good PR firm would help. Something better than “We feel for Trayvon’s parents” blah blah blah.
How about coming out and saying “Trayvon is the reason he’s dead because he committed a violent assault on a man for no other reason than he didn’t like he was being watched, and on wrong hit to the head and Mr. Zimmerman would have been dead.”
Maybe you need to get caught up on the facts. This was a SELF DEFENSE case, SYG was not used in this trial.
Also, you need to fear being killed by souless thugs in the midst of a robbery or ‘just because’, and not worry so much about SYG laws letting someone get away with murder.
THAT is the key to all of this—money. If the loser pays or the “over zealous” prosecutors can be held accountable in some way, our legal system would change over night! Right now, they throw any and everything to see what sticks whether warranted or not. And the defendant pays and pays and pays. It’s whoever has the taller stack of cash that wins, even if they lose.
It’s unlikely the forefathers foresaw the courts turning into great money engines for lawyers, as I would see it. That fact is what finally goaded the Supreme Court into requiring public defenders.
If you aren’t even aware that GZ called the non-emergency number rather than 9-1-1, I’d suggest that your knowledge is a bit shaky at best. That’s an oft-repeated piece of misinformation.
Zimmerman’s main mistake, he articulated when he said, “These *&@% always get away.” That was a mistake because he was more right than he knew when he said he thought Martin was up to no good, or on drugs - Martin gave him the slip, all right, but he decided not to get away, but to confront, and assault, and batter, Zimmerman. The testimony of the only eye witness reinforces the physical evidence that Martin, tho 20 pounds lighter that Zimmerman, demonstrated the truth of the saying that “It’s not the size of the dog in the fight, it’s the size of the fight in the dog.”It makes good journalistic theater but I don’t know anyone personally who actually cares. One thug, one wannabe cop, IMHO.Zimmerman never made a mark on Martin until he finally - after crying out for help for a full 40 seconds, and sustaining several marks on his head in addition to a deformed nose - fired the fatal shot. Martin’s clothes indicated that he had been in the dominant position described by eye witness John Good the whole time, with Zimmerman lying on his back.
On top of everything else, there is the fact that John Good told “them” - told Martin - to stop, and he continued. When Good left to call 911 while Martin continued to batter Zimmerman, Zimmerman was left to understand that no one would help him until such time - if ever in his remaining lifetime - as the police finally arrived, he was on his own in a jungle situation. There were still cries for help - all the cries were by Zimmerman, as Martin was never in trouble until suddenly he was dying - but whether you believe the story about Martin finding the gun or not, something caused Zimmerman to decide he had to shoot Martin.
Zimmerman claimed that in the heat of the assault he didn’t even remember the gun until Martin found it - but whatever, he shot long after most of us think we would have in his position. There is nothing but fevered imaginings to suggest that the gun was ever a factor in the fight until the moment it was used.
I mean good thug=dead thug but what if someone shoots you or me and then claims ‘stand your ground’?
When John Good saw Zimmerman, Zimmerman had no ability to retreat. Put differently, he was retreating as much as he found it possible to do. SYG has nothing to do with the case. Nothing in the evidence required the jury to take into account Zimmerman’s interest in law enforcement as a career. The prosecution’s case was all innuendo, all the time. Well, except for the baseless accusations . . .
If you want to critique the law in a self-defense case, it does seem weird that the prosecution has to defend the “victim” beyond a reasonable doubt in order to win against a self-defense claim. But that’s the law and I’m not positive I can suggest anything unambiguously better.The other interesting constraint is that the jury isn’t informed of the penalty for any given verdict. All those wonderful “feelings” the jury had for the mother of the victim would have turned to ashes in their mouths if they had brought in a guilty verdict on the least of the “lesser included charges” in Murder 2, and learned that the sentence would mean that Zimmerman’s wife would in all likelihood have to divorce Zimmerman and find another husband, or else try to conceive late or go childless. All because it “wasn’t right” that a drug-addled thug who was on suspension from school got killed while committing a crime.
In six months, they'll have some sort of conspiracy theory that Zimmerman is secretly JOOOOOish. The white hispanic thing will disappear down the memory hole.
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