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No empathy for George Zimmerman
The Kansas City Star ^ | July 24, 2013 | Melvina Johnson Young

Posted on 07/24/2013 7:08:32 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

So, George Zimmerman was scared the night he shot Trayvon Martin through the heart. Know who else was probably pretty scared that night? Trayvon Martin.

Surprised I’m asking? Me too. But it seems like a lot of people haven’t thought much about that.

Obviously, Trayvon isn’t here to tell us how he felt. He’s dead. And a lot of folks disregarded Rachel Jeantel’s account of him being afraid even though she was the last person to hear Trayvon speak (besides Zimmerman). She heard his fear through the phone. She heard him try to run away. He was scared.

And yet there’s a disturbing silence in public discussion about it.

What in the hell is going on?

Why is it so hard to imagine that a teenager walking home at night would be afraid if a strange, angry-looking guy started following him? A bigger, older, guy in a truck.

Why is it so hard for some people to understand his fear escalating when the angry guy got out of the truck and confronted him? Why is it so hard to imagine how his fear must have rocketed skyward when the angry guy brandished his gun? (Of course, he brandished it or showed it somehow. How else would Trayvon even know it was there on a dark and rainy night?)

Why can’t we put ourselves or our children in Trayvon’s Martin tennis shoes? Because Zimmerman was what every parent regardless of race in America warns a child about — “stranger danger” — with a gun.

So how come half the country identifies with Zimmerman?(continued)

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KEYWORDS: blackkk; blacks; florida; georgezimmerman; racheljeantel; racism; saintskittles; trayvon; trayvonmartin; trayvonstroops; zimmerman
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Why is it so hard for you to dabble in reality on important issues?

Oh wait...


61 posted on 07/24/2013 8:05:38 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Obviously, Trayvon isn’t here to tell us how he felt. He’s dead.

YEE-HAW! Score one for the good guys!
62 posted on 07/24/2013 8:09:38 PM PDT by Trod Upon (Every penny given to film and TV media companies goes right into enemy coffers. Starve them out!)
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To: VeniVidiVici

Obviously she hasn’t heard of the videos of Master Trayvon beating up homeless guys.


Is that true? I’d like to see a source as I’d never heard this before.


63 posted on 07/24/2013 8:11:05 PM PDT by warsaw44
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
The right wing, particularly FOX News, has made a cottage industry of trivializing efforts to dismantle racial distortions and racism. They’ve reduced it to some sort of “PC Performance” rather than the work of making human equality happen — building the skills to see another person’s humanity across the very real divides of race and cultural difference.

My dear lady you are not going to dismantle racial distortions by ignoring facts and disregarding the facts in evidence.

The evidence brought to light in the trial do not in anyway support the description of Trayvon Martins death in anyway.

If you want the half of America that believes Zimmerman’s account of Trayvon’s death to believe that Zimmerman was the attacker and Trayvon the victim you had better come up with a story that is supported by the facts.

Oh, and if you want people to see other’s humanity across the devides of race and culture don’t forget that different cultures have different ideas about violence and that different cultures have different ideas about how to deal with those of different races and cultures.

Unfortunately for you the prevalent culture of urban black males seems to be one of rampant violence and racial animus.

64 posted on 07/24/2013 8:38:34 PM PDT by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Know who else was probably pretty scared that night? Trayvon Martin...ah stop, you're making me cry - Martin was right outside the housing unit where he was staying four minutes before he smahed Zimmerman in the nose - if he was so scared, why didn't he go inside, lock the doors and windows and even turn out the lights instead of apparently going looking for Zimmerman and attacking him?.......
65 posted on 07/24/2013 8:54:09 PM PDT by Intolerant in NJ
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To: Intolerant in NJ

Theodore Roosevelt made a comment around the turn of the century “Negroes have a well known propensity for criminal violence.”

That has not changed but now no one will admit it.


66 posted on 07/24/2013 9:00:48 PM PDT by yarddog (Romans 8: verses 38 and 39. "For I am persuaded".)
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To: yarddog

Wow - imagine a well-respected progressive like TR saying such a thing - just shocking.....


67 posted on 07/24/2013 9:14:06 PM PDT by Intolerant in NJ
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To: 21twelve

Mulva?


68 posted on 07/24/2013 9:19:30 PM PDT by VerySadAmerican (If you vote for evil because you can't see evil, you ARE evil!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

If you’re scared Honey, you run home.

You don’t double back and commit Assault and Battery against the pudgy Latino Creepy Ass Cracker who you think is Gay.


69 posted on 07/24/2013 9:23:02 PM PDT by Kickass Conservative (They can follow the Communist, I'll follow the Constitution...)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

GZ was “angry looking”? I must have missed that bit of evidence in the trial.

Maybe she thinks all Gays are angry looking, Homophobe that she is.


70 posted on 07/24/2013 9:26:49 PM PDT by Kickass Conservative (They can follow the Communist, I'll follow the Constitution...)
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To: VerySadAmerican

There was another article posted on a GZ Thread written by a Black Girl named Pagina.

I couldn’t help thinking that her Parents could have done worse by naming her Vussy.


71 posted on 07/24/2013 9:29:11 PM PDT by Kickass Conservative (They can follow the Communist, I'll follow the Constitution...)
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To: Kickass Conservative

I’m still waiting for that bad ass running back named “Download Washington” and a linebacker named “Gigabite”. My wife said someday there will be a woman named Propecia. Honestly, we met here about two years ago.


72 posted on 07/24/2013 9:40:03 PM PDT by VerySadAmerican (If you vote for evil because you can't see evil, you ARE evil!)
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To: Delta Dawn

Exactly right...this Rachel didnt even bother to find out what happened,,,she found out 2 days later at school. She knew Martin going back to start a fight..thats why she laid low. Then, they got a hold of her, and tried to craft this story. Problem was, he swung on the wrong guy, who was legally armed..case closed.


73 posted on 07/24/2013 10:12:24 PM PDT by basalt
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Go away!


74 posted on 07/25/2013 12:19:54 AM PDT by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

So it should also be OK for thugs to beat down cops if they’re scared of them.


75 posted on 07/25/2013 10:17:32 AM PDT by Sopater (Is it not lawful for me to do what I will with mine own? - Matthew 20:15a)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

    Hey Melvina, here's what I think :

             


    The truly sad part is that 'punk karma' isn't universal AND immediate.

76 posted on 12/14/2013 2:10:36 PM PST by tomkat
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To: tomkat

The problem has been the focus on irrelevant arguments – some of which are actually unsupported by the evidence.

1. ‘George Zimmerman (GZ) racially profiled Trayvon Martin (TM)’ There is no evidence of this.

2. ‘GZ disobeyed an order by the police’ * The civilian dispatcher, Sean Noffke, testified that he did not give GZ an order and, in fact, he, like his fellow dispatchers, are trained not make comments that sound like commands. * Noffke also testified under cross that, as a result of his asking GZ which way TM was going, GZ could have reasonably interpreted this as being asked to follow Martin. * It is also not a crime in Florida to disregard a comment made by a civilian dispatcher.

3. ‘GZ got out of his car’ Not a crime on public property and not negligent either.

4. ‘GZ followed TM’ Again, anyone can follow anyone on a public street unless the followee has obtained a restraining order against the follower and even there, the RS only places time, place, and manner restrictions on the person enjoined.

5. ‘GZ wasn’t really injured’ * Under Florida’s self-defense laws, one doesn’t have to be injured AT ALL to use deadly force * No one is required to refrain from defending himself while another is engaged in or attempting to commit a felony.

6. ‘TM is dead through no fault of his own’ * If you believe that TM assaulted GZ, then he IS dead as a result of his own actions.

7. ‘GZ could have left’ * Under Florida law, there is not a duty to withdraw rather than use deadly force * TM was straddling GZ so how the latter was supposed to leave the scene is unanswered.

8. ‘GZ was armed and TM wasn’t’ * One’s fists can be considered weapons and can result in severe bodily harm or death. * GZ was legally carrying a weapon * There is no requirement under the law that the same weapon be used by the assailant * A homeowner can kill an intruder whether or not he has been threatened * Those that attack cannot feign surprise if they are met with superior firepower.

9. ‘Stand Your Ground!’ * SYG is NOT at issue in this trial. * The defense is a classic self-defense case.

10. ‘Black men NEVER get to use SYG!’ * Wrong http://tinyurl.com/nboht35

11. ‘GZ is a man and TM was a boy!’ * As if ‘boys’ don’t commit murder, rape, and assault everyday in this country.


77 posted on 12/14/2013 2:37:55 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet ("Of the 4 wars in my lifetime none came about because the US was too strong." Reagan)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Amen, 2D.


78 posted on 12/14/2013 2:53:29 PM PST by tomkat
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I bought my last Hallmark card then.


79 posted on 12/14/2013 3:00:29 PM PST by sport
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To: VerySadAmerican
Mulva?

Yes! I've tried to recall that name used on Seinfeld. Thanks for your memory!

80 posted on 03/22/2014 9:36:15 PM PDT by IIntense (WH)
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