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To: Political Junkie Too

I believe, and this is just my interpretation, that a NBC is either born in the United States to a parent who is legally there, or a baby born an automatic American anywhere in the world.

Thus John McCain did not need his congressional ruling to be a NBC. Born to two American parents serving their country (well, mom was accompanying her husband). No question.

Thus if Obama was born outside this country he would not be a NBC or even a citizen at birth and would have needed naturalization because the only parent with citizenship was not old enough to confer it.

Thus Ted Cruz would be a NBC because he was automatically American at birth.

Thus a Schwarzenegger would not be, as he was born outside the country to two non citizens.

I think my interpretation is the fairest. Naturally Born American. The second you are born, you are an American. I add the disqualifier that keeps anchor babies from that status.


234 posted on 07/21/2013 1:07:59 PM PDT by Yaelle
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To: Yaelle
Anchor babies would not be born of citizen parents, so would not be natural born citizens as defined in the Preamble.

Anchor babies are not the Posterity of We the People.

-PJ

236 posted on 07/21/2013 1:13:04 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (If you are the Posterity of We the People, then you are a Natural Born Citizen.)
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To: Yaelle

You don’t get to decide what is fair or not.

The NBC is not fair BY DESIGN.

See the article in my post #235. People used to have their BIG BOY AND GIRL PANTIES on and knew that they weren’t eligible.

Now it’s not FAAAAAIIIIIIRRRRRR. Whiners.


242 posted on 07/21/2013 1:16:04 PM PDT by Smokeyblue
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To: Yaelle

I think my interpretation is the fairest. Naturally Born American. The second you are born, you are an American. I add the disqualifier that keeps anchor babies from that status.


But that’s not faaaaair!


274 posted on 07/21/2013 2:17:17 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: Yaelle
I believe, and this is just my interpretation, that a NBC is either born in the United States to a parent who is legally there, or a baby born an automatic American anywhere in the world.

This really isn't just your interpretation. It's pretty much the understanding of almost everybody.

Thus if Obama was born outside this country he would not be a NBC or even a citizen at birth and would have needed naturalization because the only parent with citizenship was not old enough to confer it.

Under the laws of the time, he would not have been a US citizen at birth. Therefore, he would not have been a "natural born citizen" for the purposes of Presidential eligibility. You are correct.

Thus Ted Cruz would be a NBC because he was automatically American at birth.

Again, correct.

Thus a Schwarzenegger would not be, as he was born outside the country to two non citizens.

And again, correct. Schwarzenegger can serve as governor, Senator, Representative, cabinet member, Presidential adviser. He is not eligible to be President of the United States, and absent a Constitutional amendment, never will be.

I think my interpretation is the fairest. Naturally Born American. The second you are born, you are an American. I add the disqualifier that keeps anchor babies from that status.

I also agree that there is room to question and maybe exclude both anchor babies and the children of illegal aliens. Although practically speaking, that's most likely never going to happen.

279 posted on 07/21/2013 2:27:04 PM PDT by Jeff Winston
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