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To: INVAR
Most of us understand the intent of requirement is that a presidential candidate MUST be born in the country to two American parents who are citizens.

I'm not sure where you get the "most" part of this. Quite a number of conservatives, myself among them, believe natural born means citizen at birth. As opposed to a naturalized citizen.

However, for purpose of discussion let us assume your definition is correct. It is profoundly obvious that many millions of impeccably natural-born citizens, by your definition, feel no loyalty to America.

So the requirement, by whatever definition, has failed in its purpose. I don't think even technical violations of the Constitution should be ignored, but the notion that natural born citizens are more loyal is just flatly untrue in today's world.

166 posted on 07/21/2013 11:42:11 AM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: Sherman Logan
However, for purpose of discussion let us assume your definition is correct. It is profoundly obvious that many millions of impeccably natural-born citizens, by your definition, feel no loyalty to America.

That does not negate the Founders' intent or the Law in regards to the requirements for President. I think it was unfathomable to them at the time, that Americans themselves would teach generations of their children to loathe their country and hold ideas anathema to themselves, liberty and their posterity.

Nation-state loyalties is what the Founders were familiar with and what had plagued Europe for centuries. That is what they were most concerned with as nation-state factionalism already existed in the young county at the time of the Convention.

What exists today is loyalty to ideology, which is the religion of most of whom are politically invested. When you have devotion to ideology, the rule of law is moot - because it can be waived or ignored to advance the ideology and it's causes.

In such an environment, we become a nation ruled by the whims and passions of the moment - no longer governed by the rule of law.

If we're going to play the game of precedents, then we lose our liberty and become no different than those who readily ignore the law and it's intent to push a political religion and agenda on the rest.

218 posted on 07/21/2013 12:41:47 PM PDT by INVAR ("Fart for liberty, fart for freedom and fart proudly!" - Benjamin Franklin)
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