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Trayvon, Zimmerman and Florida's insane gun laws (Someone didn't watch the trial)
The York Daily Record ^ | July 16, 2013 | Tammerlin Drummond

Posted on 07/16/2013 4:25:49 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Let's set aside the issue of race for just a moment in the Trayvon Martin case. Strip away the hyperbole on the left and the right and cut to the facts.

Here is what the not-guilty verdict in the George Zimmerman murder trial tells us.

In the state of Florida, a grown man can stalk a teenage boy whom he thinks "is up to no good" in his gated community. He can disobey a police dispatcher who tells him he doesn't need to follow the 17-year-old. When the teen, who happens to be visiting the man's neighbor, gets upset that some stranger is following him and the two wind up in a brawl, the man can pull out a concealed gun and shoot him dead. Then he can claim self-defense even though he was the one who provoked the confrontation. Walk away scot free with the law on his side.

On Saturday, a jury of six women found Zimmerman not guilty of second-degree murder. A number of legal experts — among them civil rights attorney John Burris — have said the prosecution failed to make its case.

A legal finding of not guilty, however, does not absolve Zimmerman of the fact that he took the life of a teen who was simply returning from the store with a box of Skittles — a teen who would be alive today if the neighborhood watch member and wannabe-cop had not initiated a confrontation, then escalated it by pulling a gun.

The tragic circumstances of Martin's killing just three weeks after his 17th birthday are deserving of the national protests since the verdict was handed down.

More than 350,000 people have signed a petition by the NAACP calling on the Justice Department to file civil rights charges against Zimmerman. They believe that Zimmerman, who is half-white and half-Peruvian, singled out Martin and ultimately killed him for no other reason than that he was African-American and wearing a hoodie.

U.S. Attorney General Eric Holder called Martin's killing "tragic and unnecessary" and said the department was investigating to determine whether to file federal charges. But I think that, rather than racial profiling, the main focus ought to be on the insanity of Florida's gun laws.

Florida's "Stand Your Ground" law allows people to defend themselves with force, including deadly force, if they feel threatened in their home, business, car, or a place where they "have a legal right to be" — rather than retreat if they fear for their lives. The police in Sanford waited 44 days to arrest Zimmerman, in part, because of the right to use force under "Stand Your Ground," although his lawyers did not use that defense in the trial.

At least 21 states have versions of the same law, which are an open invitation to vigilantism. The Florida law is so broad it can be interpreted to allow people to use lethal force anytime if they believe their lives are in danger.

Nine months after Martin was killed, Jordan Davis, another 17-year-old African-American was gunned down in a gas station parking lot in Jacksonville, Fla. Michael Dunn, 45, who is white, is accused of shooting into a parked car where Davis was sitting because he and his friends wouldn't turn down their music.

He has been charged with second-degree murder and goes to trial in September. He is using the "Stand Your Ground" law in his defense. Dunn claimed that he thought Davis and his friends had a gun but none was found in the car.

Dunn, at least, was arrested, unlike Zimmerman, who wasn't charged until the case generated national outrage, but his arrest isn't going to bring Davis back.

How many more Martins and Davises must there be?


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1 posted on 07/16/2013 4:25:49 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Well then she doesn’t need to come to our beaches.


2 posted on 07/16/2013 4:27:42 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Yes its so obviously true, I mean how dare Zimmerman defend himself, how dare he just not sit there and take the beating, after all, he’s a white hispanic, he deserved it, for slavery and stuff


3 posted on 07/16/2013 4:29:39 PM PDT by Sarah Barracuda
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Lou Dobbs is doing a segment on FOX Business right now about this. About folks spouting off about the case who don’t know what it was about just like this twit Drummond.

He calls it “Parade of Fools”.


4 posted on 07/16/2013 4:31:46 PM PDT by smoothsailing
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Just another Angry Black Woman...

Has anyone else noticed the rising drumbeat against SYG?


5 posted on 07/16/2013 4:31:54 PM PDT by Old Sarge (My "KMA List" is growing daily...)
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To: Old Sarge

It’s the talking points straight from the executive mansion.


6 posted on 07/16/2013 4:33:01 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You can't invade the mainland US There'd be a rifle behind each blade of grass.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

These people are PRO-ASSAULT and should be reffered to as such.


7 posted on 07/16/2013 4:33:04 PM PDT by The Toll
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
In the state of Florida, a grown man can stalk a teenage boy whom he thinks "is up to no good" in his gated community. He can disobey a police dispatcher who tells him he doesn't need to follow the 17-year-old. When the teen, who happens to be visiting the man's neighbor, gets upset that some stranger is following him and the two wind up in a brawl, the man can pull out a concealed gun and shoot him dead.

Wait, I thought she said, "strip away the hyperbole and stick to the facts"?

8 posted on 07/16/2013 4:34:21 PM PDT by Future Snake Eater (CrossFit.com)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The whole idea here is that suspecting a black person of being a criminal is crimethink, the remedy for which is a severe beating (to death, if necessary) administered by that black person on the spot.


9 posted on 07/16/2013 4:36:40 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: Old Sarge

Trayvon was not a “kid” coming home with skittles and other stuff. He was over 6ft tall, taller than George by the way, he was into drugs. Someone called a radio station saying skittles and the other things in Trayvon’s pockets can be used to make drugs if he wanted to. **I did not know that, but am repeating what the caller said.

I looked Trayvon up on the internet saw a picture of him that looks nothing like the “kid” with the hoodie.


10 posted on 07/16/2013 4:37:22 PM PDT by Burlem
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To: Zhang Fei

I don’t know about the Yuppies, LBGT/Q and Metrosexuals in the leftist enclaves, but I have a feeling there are tens-of-millions of folks out there who might not go along with that plan.


11 posted on 07/16/2013 4:39:33 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You can't invade the mainland US There'd be a rifle behind each blade of grass.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I thought Tammerlin was the Chechen brother killed in the Boston bombing brouhaha?

And now he writes beautiful prose and looks like Qaddafi?

Wake me from my nightmare!

12 posted on 07/16/2013 4:40:25 PM PDT by urbanpovertylawcenter (where the law and poverty collide in an urban setting and sparks fly)
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To: Burlem

Purple drank
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Purple_drank


13 posted on 07/16/2013 4:40:52 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You can't invade the mainland US There'd be a rifle behind each blade of grass.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Strip away the hyperbole and there is no article left. This is the largest collection of claptrap I’ve read on this situation, and that is saying a lot.


14 posted on 07/16/2013 4:40:58 PM PDT by jdsteel (Give me freedom, not more government.)
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To: Repeat Offender; GenXteacher; Nervous Tick; BlatherNaut; ColdOne; Marcella
Welcome to the first official Black Rage ping.


15 posted on 07/16/2013 4:42:12 PM PDT by MestaMachine (My caps work, You gotta earn them.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Within the first two paragraphs, Tammerlin Drummond exhibits her utter ignorance of the Martin-Zimmerman case.

Factually refuting her assertions would needlessly waste bandwidth, as everybody on this forum is well aware of the actual facts of this case, as opposed to the race-baiting false presumptions which this silly plantation-dweller is spouting.

When someone is writing from such a warped perspective viz-a-viz reality, is it any surprise that their commentary becomes totally meaningless and is devoid of any cogent analysis?

All in all, just some more clumsy propaganda for the low-information crowd.

16 posted on 07/16/2013 4:42:37 PM PDT by sargon (I don't like the sound of these here Boncentration Bamps!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
What is the whitest country to which someone can immigrate?

New Zealand anyone?

17 posted on 07/16/2013 4:43:10 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: central_va

New Zealand is further left than Britain or Canada. I’m headed to the Philippines or Singapore.


18 posted on 07/16/2013 4:46:34 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You can't invade the mainland US There'd be a rifle behind each blade of grass.)
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To: driftdiver

Does this mean that liberal black Florida residents will be protesting by moving OUT of Florida, too? Inquiring minds wonder these things...


19 posted on 07/16/2013 4:47:33 PM PDT by JustTheTruth
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To: Burlem

The caller was correct. Look up purple lean or purple drank.

Martin’s Facebook page had extensive discussion about the recipe, before it was deleted.


20 posted on 07/16/2013 4:52:52 PM PDT by justlurking (tagline removed, as demanded by Admin Moderator)
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