[agrarianlady]

I am extraordinarily proud of James Madison, and I'm proud to be a Republican descended from Hamilton. The modern Democrats have swung violently far away from the Jefferson/Jacksonian Democrats, but both of those men had many things wrong with their ideas.

The Industrial Revolution needed a capitalist system, and agrarians like Jefferson would have held us back, not to mention his dependence on slavery for his agrarianism. Jackson's mistrust of the central banking system led to a phenomenal collapse in the economy, and Jefferson did the same thing with tariffs.

I can only encourage you to read this.

Abraham Lincoln or the Progressives: Who was the real father of big government?

[Lee'sGhost]

Thank you, thank you, thank you for civil exchange.

They don’t have that article in Audible format, do they? Though I haven’t read the article, I suspect I would come down on the side of “Abraham Lincoln AND the Progressives: the co-fathers of big government.” In short, I don’t believe that Lincoln was necessarily for big government, I believe that his actions ALLOWED big government to evolve.

FWIW.

[Ditto]

Excellent link you provided. It was a great read. Thanks.