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To: OneWingedShark
The marriage analogy is ridiculous. States, with but 13 exceptions, joined the Union only with the permission of the other states. This permission is expressed through a majority vote in Congress. So far as I know the bride does not need to get the permission of a majority of the grooms family to marry him. Once allowed into the Union states are limited as to what they can do outside their own borders if that action impacts another state. They can't split up without consent of Congress. They can't combine with another state without consent of Congress. They can't alter their borders or enter into agreements with the other states without consent of Congress. Leaving the Union entirely should require the same, or so James Madison thought.

"A rightful secession requires the consent of the others, or an abuse of the compact, absolving the seceding party from the obligations imposed by it." - James Madison, 1832

57 posted on 04/16/2013 3:50:04 AM PDT by 0.E.O
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To: 0.E.O; central_va
The marriage analogy is ridiculous.

Not really; marriage is the fundamental compact in human society: that is it is the one that is recognized and revered universally.

States, with but 13 exceptions, joined the Union only with the permission of the other states. This permission is expressed through a majority vote in Congress.

Just like a vote to expand a board of directors would be from a board of directors -- according to the bylaws of most [all?] companies.

So far as I know the bride does not need to get the permission of a majority of the grooms family to marry him. Once allowed into the Union states are limited as to what they can do outside their own borders if that action impacts another state. They can't split up without consent of Congress. They can't combine with another state without consent of Congress. They can't alter their borders or enter into agreements with the other states without consent of Congress. Leaving the Union entirely should require the same, or so James Madison thought.

All correct, except possibly the last, again the question becomes is a bereaved party still beholden to the contract's terms? Or does the law provide for the dissolution [with benefits] to the injured party?

"A rightful secession requires the consent of the others, or an abuse of the compact, absolving the seceding party from the obligations imposed by it." - James Madison, 1832

Looks like Madison agreed with me: that the federal government violating the Constitution was grounds for a State saying "no more".

67 posted on 04/16/2013 7:31:14 AM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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