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To: GodfearingTexan

I haven’t heard about his arrest record. But that’s a separate issue not pertinent to this question. Two subpar nonconf opponents is to be expected. How many previous Heisman winners played smaller college programs early in the season??
LBs have the butkus award and its a great one. I wouldn’t be against the award going to a Def player or even an O lineman if he clearly was the best player in football. But aside from the “want” to give him the award and his irrelevant “storybook” qualities, his contribution to the team is not equal to Manziel’s for the reasons already given.
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Anyone recall Tommy Nobis from the Univ. of TX who went on to star with the Atlanta team in the NFL? Didn’t he win a national award (maybe Butkis?).

How many sub-par opponents has ND played for decades while being independant and not associated with any conference?; LOTS! That’s the only reason they occasionally rise in the rankings from year to year; they set up games with weaker teams throughout the seasons to ensure they will have a winning record.

My vote is for Johnny Football.


60 posted on 12/03/2012 4:33:36 AM PST by octex
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To: octex

Johnny Football wins easily!!


61 posted on 12/03/2012 4:36:17 AM PST by ohioman
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