Spot on!!!
None of the foregoing subjected the Roman Catholic Church (and by necessary implication each and every other pro-life church) to specific persecution as have BOTH Mittler and Obozo through their respective "health insurance" schemes. Romney's is worse on the persecution question. Mittler required the Roman Catholic Church to provide abortion coverage and sex change surgical coverage and other abominations in policies covering 90-year old nursing home confined, Alzheimer's suffering nuns and priests and Obozo did not. Small difference: minimal advantage to Obozo not that I would be caught alive or dead voting for either of them.
Mittler supports "gay" everything just like Obozo. Both are competing for fudgepackers' best supporter. Nothing to choose there.
Mittler supports turning innocent children over to lavender queens as though they were qualified to be adoptive substitute "parents." So does Obozo.
BOTH Obozo and Mittler are gun grabbers. Both are cpmmotted to farming ordinary folks on taxes to subsidize their megawealthy pals and supporters. Both favor what amounts to a certain path to socialized medicine. Both yearn for cap 'n' trade. Etc., Etc., Etc., ad infinitum, ad nauseam.
BTW, I was talking about latae sententiae excommunication and not damnation. With all due respect, you are no more qualified to instruct me as to what "other serious Catholics say" than I am to instruct you as to what serious Reformed theologians may say or as to what they may think the Bible says. I avoid discussions in which I am called upon to aggravate my fellow FReepers over their respective religious commitments and beliefs. I thank them to return the favor. What suffices for me is that FReepers be people committed consistently to the principles which characterize FR's mission as to matters political. That is not a matter of handicapping political races between utterly acceptable baby-murderers, faggot coddlers, gun grabbers, tax hikers, Demonrats of the open or disguised variety such as this year's two major party nominees, chronically hysterical environmental whackos, etc. It is not a matter of obsessing on which of two utterly unacceptable SOBs nominated by the major parties may be an infinitesimal smidgeon better on this issue or that when BOTH have absolutely unacceptable positions on each and every issue that really matters (i.e not $$$ issues).
You can keep on responding as though there were any possibility whatsoever that I would wind up agreeing with your support of Mittler. There is and will be no such possibility. Mittler = Obozo = Beelzebub = Obozo = Mittler = Baal = Mittler = Obozo = Moloch = Obozo = Mittler. That is and will continue to be my position. I will vote for Tom Hoefling. I do not owe my vote to either Obozo or Mittler and neither will get it. I do not owe my POTUS vote to the GOP as currently constituted and the GOP will not get it. I owe absolutely nothing to the Romney pom pom girls who think I owe them my vote for their candidate. I don't and won't. I also don't claim to speak for God especially not in support of Mittler.
My vote is not a "secular nod." I don't check my Faith at the door of the voting place. However imperfectly, it follows me and is part of me wherever I go.
Spot on!!!
The primaries are the time to make your feelings known on the direction of the party. In the general election you have to be pragmatic and choose the lesser of two evils.
It suffices to demonstrate your line of “logic” is stupid. But being able to actually force you to don the clothespin would mean you were a zombie with no will.