Ryan is a good man, but does not redeem the abortionist/homosexualist statist Romney

Aug 11, 2012 | Jim Robinson

[Jim Robinson]

Except for his unfortunate go along to get along support of TARP, bailouts, stimulus spending and the increased credit limit, etc, Ryan is a pretty good choice. Probably the best choice of the RINOS that were on Romney's short list. I support Ryan for the vice presidency. Wish he were at the top of the ticket, though.

But I still cannot and will not support the grand father of ObamaCare. Romney still loves and brags about his bastard brainchild, RomneyCare, even today when he knows what an anti-liberty socialist POS it is.

And the fact that he advocated that abortion should be safe and legal in America for over three decades of his adult lifetime and even advocated that Roe v Wade should be supported and sustained as settled law precludes any consideration whatsoever by this pro-life Christian for Myth Romney for the presidency.

And the fact that he boasted that he would be better for "gay rights" than Ted Kennedy, and proved it just increases my resistance.

That, and his penchant for gun control, his continuing support for global warming, gays in the scouts, gays in the military, and his record of appointing liberal judges makes it all but impossible for me to support him.

Lastly, we're having a bit of changeover on our moderator staff. At least two moderators resigned this afternoon after I flatly refused to rein in a so-called anti-Mormon "bigot" on FR. Well, if being in opposition to false prophets and false prophecy makes a Christian believer a bigot, then I guess I'm a bigot. I've posted before that I flat do not believe that the Book of Mormon is the true word of God. Nor do I believe that Joseph Smith was a prophet of God. The Christian bible warns us to be weary of false prophets and that I am. Romney being the presumptive Republican nominee does not change that fact.

[presently no screen name]

So darned reactionary

Reactionary to what? Good or Evil?

[ansel12]

Carter probably had a pretty good security clearance in the Navy’s submarine nuke program.

[ansel12]

You aren’t reading our posts, fund raising for abortion? giving money to pay for abortions? Working for pro-abortion democrats to defeat republicans? Appointing ZERO pro-life judges?

He campaigns on it, appoints judges to protect it, fund raises for it, writes checks to it, campaigns for pro-abortion democrat candidates running against republicans, and you still don’t accept that he was aggressively pro-abortion?

[presently no screen name]

Romney has been called many things, but not to my recollection a liar.

LOL!

He's a KNOWN LIAR!

[Waryone]

You really don’t know Romney do you?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lNDsyKnQIes&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9CUL8I3KZO4&feature=related

He lied on the above video. After he supposedly became pro-life, he created Romneycare with its minimal cost or free abortions.

Spend some time on Youtube eventually you will find Mitt taking every side of every issue.

As for whether he really has changed his support for abortion, take a look at this website:

http://prolifeprofiles.com/mitt-romney-abortion

Here’s a little snippet of what is on the site -

As a “Pro-family” Republican Candidate: by his undeniable record fully documented below, Mitt Romney:
- created RomneyCare which is terribly similar to ObamaCare but even worse for it openly funds abortion
- put Planned Parenthood on the so-called “independent” board he created that offers $50 co-pay abortions
- thereby instituted tax-funded abortion on demand two years after his orchestrated “pro-life” conversion
- as late as 2012 says he would nominate judges in the mold of Chief Justice John Roberts (who upheld Obamacare)
- as late as 2011 continues to defend aborting tens of thousands of kids (denying their God-given right to life)
- supported destructive embryonic research after his false 2004 pro-life conversion
- put a pro-abortion Democratic judge on the bench after Romney had claimed a pro-life conversion
- fabricates a claim that a court ordered him to institute same-sex marriage, a travesty he committed on his own
- single-handedly instituted same-sex marriage and later fabricated a claim that a court ordered him to do so
- bragged that he would continue to defend abortion “rights” after he claimed a pro-life conversion
- denies responsibility for the 10-member board that funds abortion even though his executive branch filled 7 seats
- pro-choice in ‘94; pro-life in ‘01; choice ‘02; pro-life ‘04; choice ‘05; life in ‘06; then funded abortion in ‘06

Read through the site and all the things Mitt supported even after he supposedly had his pro-life conversion.

Romneycare abortions

He believes abortion is okay as long as the state says it’s ok to kill the babies.

Human Embryo experimentation is a-ok with Romney.

Has no problem with pro-choice, pro-gay agenda judges.

[fabian]

I look to Ryan more than Romney actually.

[presently no screen name]

Every post makes YOU look like a troll!!

[Kevmo]

If he is elected and governs from the right like he says he will, would you have a kind word for him?
***His career so far has been pro-choice, and even pro-abortion. He’s been a gun-grabber. How can he make up for all that librulism? There’s no way he’s going to be extra-conservative. He said he would repeal “and replace” obamacare. He seems pro-amnesty. He’s an overall dud.

[ansel12]

Romney has been called many things, but not to my recollection a liar.

LOL, Mitt Romney is famous for lying, he is a pathological liar.

[fabian]

Just keep up the leftist type of tactics of bringing up the past...obviously he did not believe abortion was right and he did feel like it should be up to the woman. He was dead wrong...but now he is right and you guys are stuck in the past...because you want to be! Good luck with that. I am voting for who the people have nominated thus far..almost..he has the votes. I like Ryan a lot too and he will have a good influence on Romney. So long and good luck with your judgmental selves because that is all you guys are being , thinking you are being storing in your beliefs. Sort of immature actually.

[presently no screen name]

Don’t change the subject - you are here trying to convince others Mitt is not pro abortion which is a LIE!! And you used a lot of bandwidth trying to prove otherwise - even using the name of REAGAN to do it!! NOTHING CONSERVATIVE about you.

[ansel12]

I wouldn’t bring up fighting and communists in regards to the draft evading Mitt Romney, it brings up the history of his connections, racism, the draft, and Mormonism, and his father’s anti-war, liberal, presidential campaign against Reagan.

[SoConPubbie]

At CPAC this year Romney said the following:

1. "I was a severely conservative Governor of Massachusetts"
2. "I have always been Pro-Life"

I have already proved on this very thread how blatant a lie both of those statements were.

He has also lied about having to implement Gay Marriage(which he did Unconstitutionally) as if he had no choice. This is proven to be a bald faced lie just by reading the Massachusetts Constitution which states in clear, concise, unequivocal language that all matters concerning marriage are to originate in the Legislature. This was pointed out to Romney by 44 conservatives and jurists and Romney went ahead anyway and implemented what can only be considered, given the facts, as unconstitutional and illegal. He REFUSED to do his constitutional duty, because he as always supported and done his best to implement the Gay Agenda, and lied about his position all along as believing that Marriage should be only between a man and a woman.

He also lied about their being $50 abortions in his healthcare plan, he was confront on that lie and had to back down.

Romney LIED about Newt Gingrich and his so-called ethics investigation against him in the run-up to the Florida Primary.

All of this has been covered ad-nauseum here on FreeRepublic over and over and over again, and yet you still are questioning the vericaty of the statement that Romney is a liar?

You must be a very selective reader.

[presently no screen name]

You are the naive and immature one - daydreaming a promising future while IGNORING the rotten past of a candidate who wants to lead America. The same mindset (forget the past) of someone willing to vote for Hilter if he were alive.

[SoConPubbie]

Romney has been called many things, but not to my recollection a liar.

At CPAC this year Romney said the following:

1. "I was a severely conservative Governor of Massachusetts"
2. "I have always been Pro-Life"

I have already proved on this very thread how blatant a lie both of those statements were.

He has also lied about having to implement Gay Marriage(which he did Unconstitutionally) as if he had no choice. This is proven to be a bald faced lie just by reading the Massachusetts Constitution which states in clear, concise, unequivocal language that all matters concerning marriage are to originate in the Legislature. This was pointed out to Romney by 44 conservatives and jurists and Romney went ahead anyway and implemented what can only be considered, given the facts, as unconstitutional and illegal. He REFUSED to do his constitutional duty, because he as always supported and done his best to implement the Gay Agenda, and lied about his position all along as believing that Marriage should be only between a man and a woman.

He also lied about their being $50 abortions in his healthcare plan, he was confront on that lie and had to back down.

Romney LIED about Newt Gingrich and his so-called ethics investigation against him in the run-up to the Florida Primary.

All of this has been covered ad-nauseum here on FreeRepublic over and over and over again, and yet you still are questioning the vericaty of the statement that Romney is a liar?

You must be a very selective reader.

[fabian]

o please..give me a break. I am conservative enough to believe a man that he has changed his heart. You on the other hand can not let him be changed...keep dredging up the past..because you resent him for that past. You really need this...
www.copingstrategiescd.com.

[ansel12]

Yeah, there isn’t any question, you are just a lying troll, not interested in high quality responses at all.

[SoConPubbie]

I look to Ryan more than Romney actually.

Ryan is simply in a figure-head position and has to toe the line that Romney draws, not the other way around.

By the time Romney gets through implementing as much of the Gay Agenda as he can, granting some form of Amnesty, implementing his own version of ObamaCare, AKA RomneyCare, either at the state level or the Federal level, and does nothing to reign in the size of Government, Ryan will have a hard time winning POTUS in 2016 because of how weakened he will have become because of his association with Romney.

[SoConPubbie]

o please..give me a break. I am conservative enough to believe a man that he has changed his heart. You on the other hand can not let him be changed...keep dredging up the past..because you resent him for that past. You really need this... www.copingstrategiescd.com.

There isn't anything conservative with respect to your support of Mitt Romney.

Has Mitt Romney changed when he doing the following?

1. Supporting Gays in the Military by refusing publically to reinstate "Don't Ask Don't Tell".
2. Supporting Adoption by Gays
3. Supporting Gays being allowed in the Boy Scouts

You're not here to deal with the truth about Mitt Romney, you're here to support lies about Mitt Romney.

His is nothing as you have described and the evidence has been presented to you and others here on FreeRepublic over and over again and there is never an admittance of the truth by you and others.

[fabian]

yeah right...you are full of it..I am no troll..daaaa!