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Ryan is a good man, but does not redeem the abortionist/homosexualist statist Romney
Aug 11, 2012 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 08/11/2012 4:42:48 PM PDT by Jim Robinson

Except for his unfortunate go along to get along support of TARP, bailouts, stimulus spending and the increased credit limit, etc, Ryan is a pretty good choice. Probably the best choice of the RINOS that were on Romney's short list. I support Ryan for the vice presidency. Wish he were at the top of the ticket, though.

But I still cannot and will not support the grand father of ObamaCare. Romney still loves and brags about his bastard brainchild, RomneyCare, even today when he knows what an anti-liberty socialist POS it is.

And the fact that he advocated that abortion should be safe and legal in America for over three decades of his adult lifetime and even advocated that Roe v Wade should be supported and sustained as settled law precludes any consideration whatsoever by this pro-life Christian for Myth Romney for the presidency.

And the fact that he boasted that he would be better for "gay rights" than Ted Kennedy, and proved it just increases my resistance.

That, and his penchant for gun control, his continuing support for global warming, gays in the scouts, gays in the military, and his record of appointing liberal judges makes it all but impossible for me to support him.

Lastly, we're having a bit of changeover on our moderator staff. At least two moderators resigned this afternoon after I flatly refused to rein in a so-called anti-Mormon "bigot" on FR. Well, if being in opposition to false prophets and false prophecy makes a Christian believer a bigot, then I guess I'm a bigot. I've posted before that I flat do not believe that the Book of Mormon is the true word of God. Nor do I believe that Joseph Smith was a prophet of God. The Christian bible warns us to be weary of false prophets and that I am. Romney being the presumptive Republican nominee does not change that fact.


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To: colorcountry; sf4dubya
I don't think sf4dubya quite understands

You could have stopped right there.

4,261 posted on 08/16/2012 11:02:54 AM PDT by roylene (Salvation the great Gift of Grace.)
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To: sf4dubya
Mormon conservatives running for office.

Name names. I don't know of any.

4,262 posted on 08/16/2012 11:07:27 AM PDT by roylene (Salvation the great Gift of Grace.)
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4,263 posted on 08/16/2012 11:11:16 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Williams

When you read these posts in the Religion Forum exposing Mormonism not attacking it, where you aware that they are posted using the words of Mormon leaders, and quotes from their own doctrines?
Many of us have decades of experiences with Mormonism and know it well, which is why we try and expose it.
If you find the information incorrect, please point it out. Thanks.


4,264 posted on 08/16/2012 11:13:17 AM PDT by roylene (Salvation the great Gift of Grace.)
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To: ansel12

One of your references is from from 2007 and now you and Jim are calling him a liar. I think you are extremely judgmental as you simply cannot know that. You resent Romney for past weaknesses and now you and Jim are throwing the baby out with the bath water.


4,266 posted on 08/16/2012 11:18:27 AM PDT by fabian (" And a new day will dawn for those who stand long, and the forests will echo with laughter")
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To: ansel12

One of your references is from from 2007 and now you and Jim are calling him a liar. I think you are extremely judgmental as you simply cannot know that. You resent Romney for past weaknesses and now you and Jim are throwing the baby out with the bath water.


4,267 posted on 08/16/2012 11:18:38 AM PDT by fabian (" And a new day will dawn for those who stand long, and the forests will echo with laughter")
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To: sf4dubya

Wow, you just keep doing this sing-song repetition about religion, over and over, day after day.

I’m just happy that I got you to take down your homepage statement advertising FR as a home for stormfront people, yesterday.
Your statement to the world from your FR homepage that you are a “Proud member of the Cleanse FR of Stormfront Bigots Brigade.”

How many years was that up there?


4,269 posted on 08/16/2012 11:35:43 AM PDT by ansel12 (Massachusetts Governors, where the GOP goes for it's "conservative" Presidential candidates.)
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To: Williams; Kevmo; Jim Robinson
There could be a zillion pro mormon posts but then again the reaction of the typical consumer is often valid. As a constant consumer of FR I’m aware of a trend to express concern about Mormonism. It’s definitely not my issue.

Your post suggest a tendency to have ignored the proselytizing threads posted by mormons over the past five years, and to have centered on the rebuttals to them.

If "it's not my issue", you are making it your issue with incomplete information on the actual debate. If it's not your issue, why are you complaining about it?

Additionally, the entry of Mitt Romney into the race for POTUS in '07 and again now leads to "concern" about mormonism to match your "trend to express concern about Mormonism".

4,270 posted on 08/16/2012 11:38:19 AM PDT by greyfoxx39 (Tell the 52,000 mormon missionaries to stop going worldwide proclaiming Christianity to be false.)
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To: sf4dubya

Nice to know you can mind read.
Show me once where I said you should not vote for this person I have never heard of, in a race that means nothing to me to date, for any reason whatsoever.
Show me once where I said anything about Romney being a Mormon as a reason not to vote for him, I am concerned first and foremost about his LIBERAL record. (Although, Romney’s Mormonism does not in anyway contradict his liberal record, just as a side note and a person’s belief system is important to understand who they are)
Apparently, Romney’s LIBERAL record doesn’t bother you, fine and dandy, that’s not on me.
Vote for the liberals you want, and I will vote for the conservatives I want - see we each get to vote for the candidate of our choice.


4,271 posted on 08/16/2012 11:40:14 AM PDT by roylene (Salvation the great Gift of Grace.)
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To: roylene
Show me once where I said anything about Romney being a Mormon as a reason not to vote for him

Well, them allow me. Anybody stupid enough to swallow mormonism, in its entirety, is way to stupid to be President. I have literally hundreds of other reasons to not vote for Romney but his Mormonism is definitely one of them.

4,273 posted on 08/16/2012 11:44:57 AM PDT by Graybeard58 (If you fear Obama, you'll vote for Romney. If you fear God, you won't.)
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To: fabian; Jim Robinson
you and Jim are throwing the baby out with the bath water.

You post the same slam twice, #4266 and 4267 about JR and fail to ping him to either post....why?

4,274 posted on 08/16/2012 11:45:04 AM PDT by greyfoxx39 (Tell the 52,000 mormon missionaries to stop going worldwide proclaiming Christianity to be false.)
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To: Graybeard58
Well, them allow me.

Typo.

Well, then allow me.

4,276 posted on 08/16/2012 11:47:09 AM PDT by Graybeard58 (If you fear Obama, you'll vote for Romney. If you fear God, you won't.)
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To: sf4dubya; colorcountry; SZonian; Graybeard58; Tennessee Nana
What does any of that have to do with this thread?

You are, or have been a student of Robert L. Millett.

And you learned your lessons well.

4,277 posted on 08/16/2012 11:48:55 AM PDT by greyfoxx39 (Tell the 52,000 mormon missionaries to stop going worldwide proclaiming Christianity to be false.)
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To: greyfoxx39

O is it a rule here that I have to ping the person I am critical of? Give me a break...I am on my smart phone and I did not even think of it. It is you that is doing the slamming calling our best hope in getting our nation free of this communist...a liar. Give me a break! And the double post was a mistake so just calm your mind.


4,278 posted on 08/16/2012 11:50:19 AM PDT by fabian (" And a new day will dawn for those who stand long, and the forests will echo with laughter")
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To: greyfoxx39

Don’t worry about it. I’m not all that interested in what clueless Romney supporters have to say about me. Romney has a 30 some odd year record of being a corrupt godless abortionist/homosexualist leftist usurping bastard and he cannot change that fact. It’s the truth of the matter. And he will not change his stripes. Statism the only thing he knows.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7OQoBxZZPqU&feature=player_embedded


4,279 posted on 08/16/2012 11:51:21 AM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: Tennessee Nana; sf4dubya
What anti-abortion legislation did Romney sign?

What anti-abortion legislation did Romney sign?

4,280 posted on 08/16/2012 11:51:21 AM PDT by Graybeard58 (If you fear Obama, you'll vote for Romney. If you fear God, you won't.)
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