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Ryan is a good man, but does not redeem the abortionist/homosexualist statist Romney
Aug 11, 2012 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 08/11/2012 4:42:48 PM PDT by Jim Robinson

Except for his unfortunate go along to get along support of TARP, bailouts, stimulus spending and the increased credit limit, etc, Ryan is a pretty good choice. Probably the best choice of the RINOS that were on Romney's short list. I support Ryan for the vice presidency. Wish he were at the top of the ticket, though.

But I still cannot and will not support the grand father of ObamaCare. Romney still loves and brags about his bastard brainchild, RomneyCare, even today when he knows what an anti-liberty socialist POS it is.

And the fact that he advocated that abortion should be safe and legal in America for over three decades of his adult lifetime and even advocated that Roe v Wade should be supported and sustained as settled law precludes any consideration whatsoever by this pro-life Christian for Myth Romney for the presidency.

And the fact that he boasted that he would be better for "gay rights" than Ted Kennedy, and proved it just increases my resistance.

That, and his penchant for gun control, his continuing support for global warming, gays in the scouts, gays in the military, and his record of appointing liberal judges makes it all but impossible for me to support him.

Lastly, we're having a bit of changeover on our moderator staff. At least two moderators resigned this afternoon after I flatly refused to rein in a so-called anti-Mormon "bigot" on FR. Well, if being in opposition to false prophets and false prophecy makes a Christian believer a bigot, then I guess I'm a bigot. I've posted before that I flat do not believe that the Book of Mormon is the true word of God. Nor do I believe that Joseph Smith was a prophet of God. The Christian bible warns us to be weary of false prophets and that I am. Romney being the presumptive Republican nominee does not change that fact.


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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

not worth the bother.


301 posted on 08/11/2012 6:47:03 PM PDT by Bluebird Singing
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To: jimsin

On the contrary. My mother-in-law sent me that same chain email yesterday....we both thought it was funny. Someone read an American Thinker article, and lifted most of the points from it. But it was embellished quite a bit. The “drop dead gorgeous” Tiger Beat crap wasn’t in the original article. I’m thinking the author of the email is some hormonal middle-aged woman who needs glasses. Mitt? A collar ad? LOL

Choose your candidate based on your fluttering heart if you wish. Conservative women, however, are supposed to be able to think.


302 posted on 08/11/2012 6:48:01 PM PDT by CatherineofAragon (Time for a write-in campaign...Darryl Dixon for President)
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To: Engraved-on-His-hands
The Republican Party can check back with me when they value social conservatives.

^ THIS ^


303 posted on 08/11/2012 6:48:01 PM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle ("If you're not fiscally AND socially conservative, you're not conservative!" - Jim Robinson, 9-1-10)
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To: pops88
“If you fear Obama, you’ll vote for Romney. If you fear God, you won’t.”

This is exactly what so many Freepers don’t seem to understand. It’s not about purity. No candidate is going to be perfect, but with Romney’s record many of us cannot vote for him, knowing we’ll have to stand before God. If this is what our country has come to, then it deserves either of the two candidates and the out pouring of God’s judgement. Frankly, I expect martial law and suspension of the election, so for me at this point, the arguments are moot. Besides, the votes are being counted in Spain by a Soros company. Crickets from the people and our representatives about that. The fix is in. I’ll still vote, but it won’t be for Romney and down ticket will be conservative. There might be some hope there.

As for Morons, my husband is ex-Mormon. His father got high up in the church, became total disgusted with the goings on and quit. I won’t elaborate here. For the people that don’t think Romney’s Mormonism will mean anything, I think you’re naive.

Bears repeating....

304 posted on 08/11/2012 6:48:36 PM PDT by greyfoxx39 (Tell the 52,000 mormon missionaries to stop going worldwide proclaiming Christianity to be false.)
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To: SE Mom

Well said. And same here.


305 posted on 08/11/2012 6:48:36 PM PDT by DRey
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To: GreyFriar
I believe Ryan is more conservative than most at least for the time being in DC, but we know how that works out the longer you are there. Also given what we know about Romney Ryan will no doubt have to hold his tongue under certain circumstance or if Romney really is that bad he will be completely neutered from having to come to conservative support, at which point he will have some soul searching to do if he wished to stay as Veep, or resign. How it works out in the end, I do not know and that is assuming that they do win.

Ultimately, our real problem is that there really isn't all that many truly conservative people out there in the public realm or in business in general or even the general public. There is way to much sacrificing (compromising) of ones own values and virtue to just stay a where your at, if you wish to advance in many areas now then you generally have to sacrifice more of who you are. Its ultimately a loosing course for the country as a whole. The only thing that will bring it back is when reality ultimately smacks us all in the face. It may just be to late by then.

306 posted on 08/11/2012 6:48:52 PM PDT by DarkWaters ("Deception is a state of mind --- and the mind of the state" --- James Jesus Angleton)
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To: Jim Robinson

You said it well Jim. I will not be voting for romney in part due to the zombie mittbotts who’ve been trying to change FR into a pro-Romney site. With that said, this is Romney’s race to lose and the continued pro-gay, anti-gun, pro big gov’t health care, etc has done little to sway me either. I must stand before God and account for my choices. If one wants to vote for Romney - that is a decision they have to make for themselves and I’ll grant you that much - it was a hard decision for me to make. But don’t dare be offensive to those who refuse to vote for the opposite of a conservative candidate.

For those who would say my vote would be for 0bama are asinine. I live in a deep blue state that will have all its electoral votes go to the obamination, so my vote will mean little anyway - except to protest the stupidity of the eGOP who manipulated the system that brought us to this place.

Yours is a principled stand Jim, I stand with you on it.


307 posted on 08/11/2012 6:49:22 PM PDT by Godzilla (3/7/77)
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To: Godzilla
I will not be voting for romney in part due to the zombie mittbotts who’ve been trying to change FR into a pro-Romney site

Let's see, we have label sticking, we have spite voting that has more to do with how you view others who have been on FR for years than how you view either Mitt Romney or the likelihood that Mitt Romney will leave a door to freedom open that Obama would not.

308 posted on 08/11/2012 6:51:50 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (let me ABOs run loose, lew (or is that lou?))
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To: Bluebird Singing
It's one of the rules of Free Republic: "You mention a FReeper by name... you PING them." Period.


309 posted on 08/11/2012 6:52:10 PM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle ("If you're not fiscally AND socially conservative, you're not conservative!" - Jim Robinson, 9-1-10)
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To: so_real

“but with Romney’s record many of us cannot vote for him, knowing we’ll have to stand before God”

And how will you be able to stand before God after you enabled an Obama second term, being responsible for everything Obama will do in his second term?


310 posted on 08/11/2012 6:52:20 PM PDT by Innovative (None are so blind that will not see.)
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To: 353FMG
Got a call yesterday from MA. The guy identified himself and asked if I would be willing to contribute $200 to the Romney campaign.

I got the same call two weeks ago. After laughing at Romney's audiacity in asking me for $200, I told the poor guy on the other end of the line to go pound sand.

311 posted on 08/11/2012 6:52:20 PM PDT by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: GBA

Excellent link...thank you. As for me? I fear G-d.


312 posted on 08/11/2012 6:52:44 PM PDT by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: GBA

“If you fear Obama, you will vote for Romney, if you fear God, you won’t.”

So then, GBA, if I fear God and I do, I shouldn’t vote for Romney, so that Obama can be reelected as a lameduck who can finish destroying this country?

I am so stooopid and dumb. Please educate me? (Yes, I am being sarcastic.)


313 posted on 08/11/2012 6:53:16 PM PDT by Chong
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To: who_would_fardels_bear

“If you live in a solid blue state then you can and should vote for Jill Stein the Green Party Candidate... There is a chance that if enough people vote for the Green Party candidate then in future elections they will be allowed into debates and given more credence by the MSM. This may help to siphon the “true-believer” socialists and commies from the Democrat to the Green Party.”

Absolutely. I hope this message is heeded.

Unfortunately I’m in Virginia...


314 posted on 08/11/2012 6:53:16 PM PDT by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat Party!)
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To: CWSNTEXAS
My father was only a kid when he was sent to Auschwitz. The things he had to endure and tolerate to survive, were so painfully etched in his memory, he shook in his sleep most of his life.

...

The central theme in my father’s memories of those days was simple. Sometimes you are forced to do anything to make it through another night with the hope that the next day might be better.

...

However, my fear is that this country that I love, that saved my Dad and gave our family a chance to rebuild, will not survive another four years with the current President in office.

Thank you, thank you, thank you. I share your fear. Perhaps your post will open some eyes to the seriousness of what we face. I hope so. B"H

315 posted on 08/11/2012 6:53:34 PM PDT by arasina (So there.)
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To: americas.best.days...

“...and my sweet grandson Caleb.”

Agreed. When in doubt, look into the eyes of your children... or grandchildren. It is their future we are gambling deciding. Still, it’s tough.


316 posted on 08/11/2012 6:54:08 PM PDT by Gator113 (***YOU GAVE it to Obama. I would have voted for NEWT.~Just livin' life, my way~)
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To: Jim Robinson

I will vote Romney, but it will hardly be a reflexive “support the Repub” vote.

I’ve come to realize something. Unless one has the financial wherewithal to make substantial contributions to the candidates of his/her choice, the average American has just a single piece of meaningful political currency: the vote. I can only spend it once.

I could choose to spend it toward improving the Republican party; i.e. rejecting the liberal Mormon it has foisted upon me, in the hope that the party will take my concerns more seriously in the next election cycle.

I could choose to spend it toward making a statement about a fringe candidate who has no chance to win but would make a better President than either of the major party candidates.

I could choose to spend it toward removing Barack Hussein Obama from office.

The first two choices are tempting. I consider the third choice to be the best use of my political currency.

I do not fault any conservative who comes to a different conclusion than I have. It’s your vote.


317 posted on 08/11/2012 6:54:40 PM PDT by 95Theses (Sola Gratia, Sola Fide, Sola Scriptura)
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To: greyfoxx39

An election loss to Mitt would be the perfect excuse for Barack to throw an EO tantrum. He might prefer this given that recalcitrant America is just not up to appreciating him.


318 posted on 08/11/2012 6:54:55 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (let me ABOs run loose, lew (or is that lou?))
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To: who_would_fardels_bear

Green Party? Is that an Agenda 21, enviro-nazi party? If so, I’d rather go with the Constitution Party—if I chose to cast a “protest” vote, which I probably won’t.


319 posted on 08/11/2012 6:55:47 PM PDT by WXRGina (Further up and further in!)
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To: CWSNTEXAS

Your post captured everything I’ve been trying to say myself. Thank you!


320 posted on 08/11/2012 6:55:56 PM PDT by TonyInOhio (You didn't build it, but the private sector is doing fine.)
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