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Ryan is a good man, but does not redeem the abortionist/homosexualist statist Romney
Aug 11, 2012 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 08/11/2012 4:42:48 PM PDT by Jim Robinson

Except for his unfortunate go along to get along support of TARP, bailouts, stimulus spending and the increased credit limit, etc, Ryan is a pretty good choice. Probably the best choice of the RINOS that were on Romney's short list. I support Ryan for the vice presidency. Wish he were at the top of the ticket, though.

But I still cannot and will not support the grand father of ObamaCare. Romney still loves and brags about his bastard brainchild, RomneyCare, even today when he knows what an anti-liberty socialist POS it is.

And the fact that he advocated that abortion should be safe and legal in America for over three decades of his adult lifetime and even advocated that Roe v Wade should be supported and sustained as settled law precludes any consideration whatsoever by this pro-life Christian for Myth Romney for the presidency.

And the fact that he boasted that he would be better for "gay rights" than Ted Kennedy, and proved it just increases my resistance.

That, and his penchant for gun control, his continuing support for global warming, gays in the scouts, gays in the military, and his record of appointing liberal judges makes it all but impossible for me to support him.

Lastly, we're having a bit of changeover on our moderator staff. At least two moderators resigned this afternoon after I flatly refused to rein in a so-called anti-Mormon "bigot" on FR. Well, if being in opposition to false prophets and false prophecy makes a Christian believer a bigot, then I guess I'm a bigot. I've posted before that I flat do not believe that the Book of Mormon is the true word of God. Nor do I believe that Joseph Smith was a prophet of God. The Christian bible warns us to be weary of false prophets and that I am. Romney being the presumptive Republican nominee does not change that fact.


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To: mojitojoe

How about a link?


2,761 posted on 08/13/2012 3:10:12 PM PDT by ansel12 (Massachusetts Governors, where the GOP goes for it's "conservative" Presidential candidates.)
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To: ansel12
How about a link?

Yes! YES! Moved and seconded!!! ;)

2,762 posted on 08/13/2012 3:12:55 PM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle ("If you're not fiscally AND socially conservative, you're not conservative!" - Jim Robinson, 9-1-10)
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To: mojitojoe; Elsie; Colofornian
Have you noticed that nobody reads that crap that you flood the thread with?

I am just one "nobody" that reads the informational material that Elsie and Colofornian have so generously provided on these threads. In fact, I had always thought that Mormonism was just another religion until I began reading some of these materials.

I know that this is a very difficult year for Romney fans so I don't blame you for losing control every now and then. After this darned election is over and Romney is no longer in the picture, I hope that we can all agree to try to find some issues around which we can unite again.

I also want you to know that although I must vote against Romney, I have been praying for him and for his supporters.

2,763 posted on 08/13/2012 3:13:50 PM PDT by Tau Food (Tom Hoefling for President - 2012)
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To: mojitojoe

Let’s see: nobody is reading your posts (said to others)
- yet you keep responding to them.
Let’s see: nobody cares what you post (said to others)
- yet you keep responding.
One of reason would assume that if the posts aren’t read and that no on cares it would no skin off your nose -
yet you keep right on blathering about how no one cares or reads the posts.
What a strange little person your are.


2,764 posted on 08/13/2012 3:15:04 PM PDT by roylene (Salvation the great Gift of Grace.)
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To: Tau Food

The Tom-Bots rival only the Goode-Bots in their lunacy. Fortunately, you’re all together on FR blathering to each other and making inane arguments against the only person who can smash Obama.


2,765 posted on 08/13/2012 3:17:48 PM PDT by Deb (If you wanna laugh everyday, follow Deepak Chopra on Twitter)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle; ansel12; Elsie; Colofornian; Jim Robinson
Here's a link for you:

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/08/11/1119189/-FreeRepublic-owner-still-boycotting-Romney-hates-Mormons-eviscerates-staff

Happy now?

2,766 posted on 08/13/2012 3:18:53 PM PDT by SouthTexas (You cannot bargain with the devil, shut the government down.)
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To: roylene; mojitojoe
What a strange little person your are.

I keep imagining this gnarled, gnomish little figure -- all knees and elbows and mad, staring eyes -- hopping animatedly about a spotted mushroom and squeaking "The Kenyan! The Kenyan! I just know you're all voting for THE KENYAN, darn you!" in a high, piping voice. ;)

2,767 posted on 08/13/2012 3:19:36 PM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle ("If you're not fiscally AND socially conservative, you're not conservative!" - Jim Robinson, 9-1-10)
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To: Diogenesis
I was there. That your little link refers to him as 'Bishop' tells me all I need to know about you.

I really feel sorry for you. I can't imagine what people must have done to you to turn you into a small-minded bitter liar. I will keep you in my prayers.

2,768 posted on 08/13/2012 3:19:56 PM PDT by 92nina
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To: SouthTexas; mojitojoe; Jim Robinson
You're saying there's actual evidence of my being a decade-long "stealth" FR liberal over at the Daily Kos site?

"Reeeeeeaaaaaaalllllllyyyyy...?"

If not... then: why are you posting a link to that site in response to my specific request for what trollwad, here, has claimed to possess in grand abundance?

2,769 posted on 08/13/2012 3:24:26 PM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle ("If you're not fiscally AND socially conservative, you're not conservative!" - Jim Robinson, 9-1-10)
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To: Jeff Head

“Do we interpret some things (like the Trinity and Godhead, or the life hereafter and what life in God’s Kingdom will be like( differently than other Christians?”

No Jeff. Mormonism perverts every single Christian doctrine - including making an idol out of God - and making Mormon men into gods.

I find your posts carefully constructed to avoid admitting the perversions, while trying to sound Christian. After confronting you numerous times, I came to understand it is purposeful.

Ampu


2,770 posted on 08/13/2012 3:25:25 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion ("I'm comfortable with a Romney win." - Pres. Jimmy Carter)
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To: Deb
Thanks. You can get more information regarding Tom here:

Tom Hoefling for President - 2012

2,771 posted on 08/13/2012 3:27:57 PM PDT by Tau Food (Tom Hoefling for President - 2012)
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To: SouthTexas; Jim Robinson

Well, now that I learn that Daily Kos has turned against Jim Robinson, maybe we should try to.....do what?


2,772 posted on 08/13/2012 3:54:22 PM PDT by ansel12 (Massachusetts Governors, where the GOP goes for it's "conservative" Presidential candidates.)
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To: ansel12
Daily Kos has turned against Jim Robinson

It's a sobering moment for us all. ;)

2,773 posted on 08/13/2012 3:56:01 PM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle ("If you're not fiscally AND socially conservative, you're not conservative!" - Jim Robinson, 9-1-10)
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To: ansel12

Those BASTARDS!!!!


2,774 posted on 08/13/2012 3:58:23 PM PDT by Deb (If you wanna laugh everyday, follow Deepak Chopra on Twitter)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle
Daily Kos has turned against Jim Robinson.

Shhh! I need time think!

I have to figure out how to digest this.

2,775 posted on 08/13/2012 4:02:37 PM PDT by ansel12 (Massachusetts Governors, where the GOP goes for it's "conservative" Presidential candidates.)
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To: ansel12; Deb
[::choking::] We... we just need to... [:swallows, hard::]... find the way to... to get past this awful, devastating revelation... somehow. Together.

[::grabs both by their shoulders, embraces them in clumsy group hug; sings, softly::] "... Kum-bay-YAH, My Lord... Kum-bay-YAAAAAAAAAAAHHHH..."

2,776 posted on 08/13/2012 4:08:54 PM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle ("If you're not fiscally AND socially conservative, you're not conservative!" - Jim Robinson, 9-1-10)
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To: SouthTexas

Look, on this choice of having to side with Daily Kos or freerepublic, that you pose to us, can we have a couple of hours, or are you demanding an immediate decision?


2,777 posted on 08/13/2012 4:12:03 PM PDT by ansel12 (Massachusetts Governors, where the GOP goes for it's "conservative" Presidential candidates.)
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To: ansel12

Daily Kos has turned against Jim Robinson
***I’m SHOCKED. SHOCKED, I tell you.


2,778 posted on 08/13/2012 4:15:59 PM PDT by Kevmo ( FRINAGOPWIASS: Free Republic Is Not A GOP Website. It's A Socon Site.)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion; exit82; Larry Lucido; bert; Jim Robinson; DollyCali; nicmarlo
"I find your posts carefully constructed to avoid admitting the perversions, while trying to sound Christian. After confronting you numerous times, I came to understand it is purposeful."

Well of course you do. It wraps things up so nicely in your world.

But it is also patently false and a judgemnent you neither have the insight or power of discerning my heart and intent to make based on your utter lack of knowledge regarding me and my person. As I say, I am so grateful that Jesus Christ will be my judge, for I know perfectly well that He does have these powers and will wield them out of love, mercy and a perfect knowledge of my heart and intent.

To try and help you understand...or to leave you without excuse...whatever floats your boat...have you noticed, that no matter how bad this gets, that I never speak ill of, or disrespectfully towards Jim Rob? You interested in knowing why?

Here's why, whether you want to hear it or not.

About three years ago, I was diagnosed with very serious, mortal bone cancer in my lower back...my sacrum. Also very rare. Only 3-4 places in the US could deal with it and it maent very serious and major surgery to remove the tumor which could itself have been fatal.

It was either that, or die slowly over 3-4 years, ultimately being bed ridden and in horribly painful stupor till I passed.

I talked to a lot of people about it. Many here started a prayer thread, and Jim Rob was kind and Christian enough (he knew I was LDS...but at that point such things did not matter and there was not nearly so much antogonism about it...he also knew I loved and trusted my Savior, Jesus Christ, just as I do today). So Jim opened up FR to my prayer thread and to several efforts to get me enough shared leave at wiork, and funds through donations to help myself and my wife and family get through should I survive.

A lot of good Christian people here on FR, most of them not LDS prayed, for me, as well as a lot of LDS folks at home, frinds throught the year,and of course my own family and that of my wife. The Lord answered those prayers in the affirmative and a very tender mercy was shown me by the Lord, preserving my life...though my resulting disabilites are pretty significant. I always take the opportunity to thank Him, my Savior, and give all credit to Him...but also to thank and show my gratitude to all of those who exerted their faith and prayers on my behalf. Especially Jim who helped with FR and the many thousands of people here.

The operation was a success, the principle tumor was removed with full margins. To date it has not come back. If ti does come back in the sof tissue, the prognosis is very bad...probably 2-3 years. I leave that in God's capable hands.

Here's my Journal of the entire thing

I will never return a word of evil or direspect, irrespective of how Jim may feel about me and my faith now, or my decision to vote for Romney/Ryan in an effort to stop the Marxist Obama, because of what he did, and what he showed. That's the kind of debt of honor, IMHO, no future action will ever warrant me forgetting, or not mentioning.

So...AMPU, if you for a minute think that I come to FR, or anywhere else for that matter, given what I have just explained to you, to somehow deceive the very people, and the very owner of a site who showed me so much faith and mercy...then all I can say is you need desperate help.

Because such a rediculous and off the wall allegations are either made out of abject ignorance (which I hope I have dispelled if that is the case with this explanation), or out of some form of malevolence that cannot be reasoned with, or argued against.

The type, sadly, shamefully, we see a lot of on this thread.

If it is anything remotely close to the latter, then I pray for you...that Christ's healing power will be effective in your life to remove the source of your anger, angst, and bad feeling that leads you to make such claims against someone you really do not know at all.

But I will not stand and accept such a pronouncement either...without standing up to it and making sure the facts and motivations are known for all to read and see...actovely posting or just lurking.

Now, once again, as I intended earlier, I will leave the thread here and let it go its way. I have pleanty to do elsewhere with so many others, to try and keep Obama from a second term and try and do what I can to help preserve the Republic for my Kids and Grandkids.

I pray, as another tender mercy from He that is Mighty to Save, that the good Lord will allow me to live long enough to see our Republic back in good, capable, all-American hands of leadership if it be His will, and see our nation turn around from the fatal path it is currently on.

2,779 posted on 08/13/2012 4:20:47 PM PDT by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free, never has been, never will be (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: Jeff Head

Jeff Head,
You sir are a class act.


2,780 posted on 08/13/2012 4:30:21 PM PDT by Sherri
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