Ryan is a good man, but does not redeem the abortionist/homosexualist statist Romney

Aug 11, 2012 | Jim Robinson

[Jim Robinson]

Except for his unfortunate go along to get along support of TARP, bailouts, stimulus spending and the increased credit limit, etc, Ryan is a pretty good choice. Probably the best choice of the RINOS that were on Romney's short list. I support Ryan for the vice presidency. Wish he were at the top of the ticket, though.

But I still cannot and will not support the grand father of ObamaCare. Romney still loves and brags about his bastard brainchild, RomneyCare, even today when he knows what an anti-liberty socialist POS it is.

And the fact that he advocated that abortion should be safe and legal in America for over three decades of his adult lifetime and even advocated that Roe v Wade should be supported and sustained as settled law precludes any consideration whatsoever by this pro-life Christian for Myth Romney for the presidency.

And the fact that he boasted that he would be better for "gay rights" than Ted Kennedy, and proved it just increases my resistance.

That, and his penchant for gun control, his continuing support for global warming, gays in the scouts, gays in the military, and his record of appointing liberal judges makes it all but impossible for me to support him.

Lastly, we're having a bit of changeover on our moderator staff. At least two moderators resigned this afternoon after I flatly refused to rein in a so-called anti-Mormon "bigot" on FR. Well, if being in opposition to false prophets and false prophecy makes a Christian believer a bigot, then I guess I'm a bigot. I've posted before that I flat do not believe that the Book of Mormon is the true word of God. Nor do I believe that Joseph Smith was a prophet of God. The Christian bible warns us to be weary of false prophets and that I am. Romney being the presumptive Republican nominee does not change that fact.

[txradioguy]

“Lol, so they voted for him in higher numbers than usual?

That hardly adds up does it?

JFK did BETTER with Protestants than democrats had seen in a while, not worse.”

Never said he did worse. Now you’re just being obtuse on purpose.

My point...that you’ve repeatedly missed...is that there were specious claims made about JFK via his religious beliefs...just like the same false allegations being made about Romney today by the likes of you and other short sighted bigots here.

All you’re doing is creating a straw man to avoid dealing with the reality of what I posted.

[Graybeard58]

I did meet two Mormons who came to my door about 15 years ago.

I may be the only person here never visited by Mormon "Missionaries", I feel so,so left out. Plenty of J.W.s in my time but no Mormons. I'd treat them politely just as I do the J.W.s but have no interest in listening to their spiel.

[bcsco]

Before Mittens got the nomination, I did not see any conservative on here promoting any of that!

Outside of trolls, who do you see here supporting those ideas? I've seen any number of FReepers prefer Romney during the primaries, but that doesn't mean they support those ideologies. It may simply mean they felt he had the best chance against Obama.

I've never subscribed to that. I was in Cain's camp, then Newt after Cain dropped out. I'd have preferred Palin over all others but that was never an option. Now, I'm going with the one who's won the primaries. Why? Because, above all, we have to defeat Obama. Period.

[Kevmo]

I’m glad you’re mother is a reading specialist. I’ve a master’s in education, with a bachelor’s in English.
***Maybe you should take some refresher courses in English grammar. Udderwize, you’re mudder may be displeezed.

[GlockThe Vote]

And justwhat do you want govt to do about “social issues” ?

[libdestroyer]

“Hoefling is a hypocrite on spending. He says he wants to cut it, but then doesn’t want to touch the massive waste called the War in Afghanistan. If you’re not serious about across the board spending cuts, then you’re not serious - period. Hoefling isn’t serious.”

A valid point, but I’ll take that over Goode and Paul’s “leave Israel to defend themselves” policy. I agree that we need to get out Crapistan though.

[GailA]

Good for you Jim. It is your forum, your right, your love of country, conservatisim and your steadfast Christian beliefs that attract so many of us to FR.

I know I am tired of being attacked by mythbots for being un Christian and hate filled, simply because I exercise MY (KJV) Christian beliefs, moral, standards and the Constitutions in the criteria of who I vote for.

Voting for RINOS is no better than voting for a democrat.

Myth is NOT the savior of the USA from the Marxist that sits in the WH. And people forget the real power lies not in the President who is a party cheer leader, but in the CONGRESS who writes and passes laws. And in the power of the voting booth!

I choose FREEDOM, not a slow decline into slavery.

I've been on FR for over a decade and you have not changed the rules. You state quite plainly NO profanity, NO personal attacks, NO racism or violence in posts.

Maybe it should go up on the opening page as well.

[Kevmo]

I have no reason to hike over to Mitt’s home page and look at what issues he currently wants to lie to us about. I’ve seen enough here on FR, in particular the RomneyTruthFile which is in the first paragraph of the front page of FR.

http://www.freerepublic.com/tag/romneytruthfile/

The man will say anything to become president.

[HiTech RedNeck]

I don’t need to convince you that truth is true for truth to be true.

[Old Student]

Jim, I agree with you about Romney, and have since he started running. However, I'm a believer in Jesus Christ, and a member of the same church as Romney. The only personage who benefits from argument like yours is our adversary, Satan, and his puppets.

Old Student

William R. Meyers, MSgt, USAF(Ret.)

[DAC21]

“Ryan's budget went nowhere. The President sets the spending in this country. Obama and Bush are the most recent proof of that. In a Romney-Ryan Administration, Romney will set the budget goal, Ryan will generate the President's budget and submit it to the House for Rubber Stamping. Trust me. That's the way it will be. Ryan is our best hope for that budget being something we can live with”

God willing enough Tea Party candidates get elected / hold their seats to keep Romneys feet to the fire.

[HiTech RedNeck]

If push came to shove, and maybe some Jack Daniels truth serum, many neverMitts would probably admit that FR does not have huge influence among larger unwashed America, and that by all traditional political indicators (if the incumbent Obama hoped to win he would need a large lead now, before undecideds break as they normally do, which is heavily towards the challenger) the Other Guy is going to clean Barack’s clock in November. So it’s safe enough to protest in the little echo chamber. The chihuahua nipping at Mitt’s heels might send a message to the GOP to try something better next time.

[reasonisfaith]

It’s Romney the man—who can potentially be dragged away from leftist ideology—vs the principles of that ideology which will never go away.

The question I’m struggling with is: Does Romney have the heart of a true liberal or is he simply a wishy washy spoiled little rich boy who will be swayed by the crowd (and by his VP).

I think there’s a big difference.

[New Jersey Realist]

The Mormon religion is little more than an organized cult

That is certainly true however what does his religion have to do with anything? We criticize liberals for their condemnation of the CEO of Chic-fil-A. Are you not doing the same thing? America stands for freedom of religion. As a conservative I find it abhorant to criticize ANY man because of his religion.

[Kevmo]

Did you even read the context of how and why that was posted?
***Yes I did. And, BTW, I agree that you appear to be pining for a FRee Republic that never existed. SOCON issues take precedence.

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I’m a big tent republican.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1821435/posts?page=18455
Here’s an analogy to work with. Take a small box and fill it with some rocks. Then add some rice, filling it to the top. Now take all the same stuff, but in a different order. Put in the rice first, then add the rocks. What you’ll find is that if you put in the big stuff first, the small stuff will fit around it. But if you put in the small stuff first, the big stuff won’t have room. The republican tent is the box. The Big issues are the socon issues, to be put in first. The little issues are things that can be accommodated around the bigger stuff. A candidate who tries to focus on the smaller issues first and leave out the bigger issues has no way of getting all of us into the tent. He splits the party. The candidate who gets the big stuff right and as much of the little stuff that will fit, he can fit more into the tent. We’re often amazed at how much rice can keep fitting in. Folks such as Rudy or Romney flunk some of the big issues, and on some of the little issues it looks to me like anyone else’s rice would do just as well. All that remains for us to agree on is which are the bedrock principles and which are not. Why would there be so much invective aimed at rudy or romney from the right? Because there are some bedrock principles that he is leaving out. Bad move. I see rudybot and romneybot postings all the time saying that they would vote for Hunter or Palin, and I see socon postings that say they would not vote for rudy or romney. That’s a BIG indicator of a few bedrock principles that are being left outside the tent in order to let in some rice.

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[reasonisfaith]

And another thing comes to mind. Romney doesn’t enfuriate me as much as the usurper does.

At this point my vote is personal, not political.

[HiTech RedNeck]

Surely even Mormons must agree that not every Mormon is necessarily a wonderful presidential candidate. I am not familiar with the machinations of the Mormon community. I’ve only seen the evangelical and Catholic churches and what they typically do. But why hasn’t anyone in Salt Lake City stepped up to bell this rogue cat Mitt (aren’t there even higher muckety mucks than bishops?) puzzles me, even if Mormons were only a secular organization that championed generic principles of morality. Mitt is NOT a flattering advertisement for the LDS.

[Kevmo]

I may be the only person here never visited by Mormon “Missionaries”,
***It’s easy. Just call up Mormons-R-US and ask for a book of Mormon.

[novemberslady]

I will vote for Romney/Ryan.

I'll ask God to help Romney make the right choices for our country. To hold his heart and steer him toward greatness.

Romney could be a great man with God's help.
I believe that.