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To: Sideshow Bob

Again, more false attributions and downright lies about what I have posted and what is going on in WI

I am on the ground here letting you know how many tea party conservatives and others not tea party people that support Mark Neumann and you still deny those facts.

So now you lie about me and attack me, and ping Jim Robinson?

How weak.

Are you trying to get posts removed like one of your cohorts did? I read one of the posts before it was removed, and it was un unwarrented lying attack on me.

Oh and no, I didn’t report it.

I’d rather the vicious misleading posts by you and the others that hate Neumann...and apparantly me too...stay up so readers can see how out of line those that don’t support Neuman ar

No wonder Neumann has positive supporters and not name callers and posters of lies like we can see on this thread.

I’ll answer your misleading long post later when I have time, right now I’m going back out to watch Neumann speak
because the enthusiastic applause is too distracting to continue posting.

How about you reporting what you are doing on the ground here, or do you not go outside much?


46 posted on 08/09/2012 1:52:08 PM PDT by Syncro (The Tea Party is Dead- [MSM].....LONG LIVE THE TEA PARTY!)
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To: Syncro; Sideshow Bob; Admin Moderator

Syncro, all you do is make unwarranted attacks, accuse others of what you yourself are guilty of and act indignant when you’re called out and corrected on the facts. I’d also like to know why my posts were removed in this thread for daring to defend myself against YOU and your derangement. How come YOUR posts aren’t removed for personal attacks and falsehoods alleged against others ? Very curious.


47 posted on 08/09/2012 2:15:42 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (If you like lying Socialist dirtbags, you'll love Slick Willard)
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To: Syncro
Again, more false attributions and downright lies about what I have posted and what is going on in WI.

OK, I'll bite. What did I lie about? What attribution has been false? You haven't posted any TEA Party press releases/fundraising pimps? I count several.

I am on the ground here letting you know how many tea party conservatives and others not tea party people that support Mark Neumann and you still deny those facts.

I haven't denied anything. Absolutely, there are individual Wisconsin conservatives who support Neumann. I think those individuals (a minority among both the GOP electorate and Wisconsin-based TEA party supporters) are being misled by the national TEA Party Express and are making a poor electoral choice. I have merely stated ad infinitum the fact that no Wisconsin-based TEA Party groups or Wisconsin-based TEA Party group leaders (acting as individuals) have endorsed Neumann - just the national group.

So now you lie about me and attack me, and ping Jim Robinson? How weak.

Again, no one has attacked you. Yep, I pinged Jim Robinson - just to make sure that there was some level of fairness to this thread. While I haven't seen any of the posts in this thread that were removed by the Admin Moderators, I have received private FReepmail that alleged the removal wasn't justified and speculated that you or a friendly FReeper acting as an Admin Moderator removed them or had them removed.

Are you trying to get posts removed like one of your cohorts did? I read one of the posts before it was removed, and it was un unwarrented lying attack on me.

Are you threatening me now?

I’d rather the vicious misleading posts by you and the others that hate Neumann...and apparantly me too...stay up so readers can see how out of line those that don’t support Neuman ar (sic)

Please tell me specifically what I have posted that has been misleading? And no, I don't hate you. I feel sorry for you - you seem unable to make any logical statements and express any conventional argument on behalf of Neumann's candidacy.

No wonder Neumann has positive supporters and not name callers and posters of lies like we can see on this thread.

Gee. You're the positive supporter? You now just called me a liar. I'll ask again - what have I lied about on this thread?

I’ll answer your misleading long post later when I have time, right now I’m going back out to watch Neumann speak because the enthusiastic applause is too distracting to continue posting.

Ah, nice. Guess what, pal? As a Californian, you can't vote for your new Wisconsin hero. I'll be voting for someone else. Thanks for visiting and spending money in our fine state, though.

How about you reporting what you are doing on the ground here, or do you not go outside much?

Ah, yet another insult. Sweet. I've got a suggestion for you, too - why don't you go back to California and do whatever it is you think you do "on the ground" there and leave Wisconsin politics to Wisconsin voters? If you ask me, California needs a lot more help than Wisconsin to elect GOP members to Congress.

You are perfectly welcome to return to Wisconsin to help campaign for Romney and other NATIONAL race.

When can I expect your thoughtful post explaining why you think Neumann is a better choice than the other 3 candidates AND why YOU and the out-of-state national TEA Party Express know Wisconsin politics better than Wisconsin FReepers?

Cordially,
Sideshow Bob

48 posted on 08/09/2012 2:39:26 PM PDT by Sideshow Bob
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To: Syncro
Just for giggles, let's review my Neumann postings that Syncro could allege to be lies.

1. Mark Neumann was earnestly and repeatedly recruited by the state GOP to carry the party's banner (unopposed) and run for Senate in 2000, 2004, 2006 & 2010, but repeatedly said "No, I don't want to go to Washington DC."

No, wait...that's true.

2. Mark Neumann took stimulus money for green energy projects.

No, wait...that's true.

3. Mark Neumann was engaged in bogus "Green Construction" homebuilding (y'know, the type of construction where hypocritical guilty liberals buy jumbo-sized homes with expensive energy-conservation facets that will eventually recoup their costs after 20 years of projected conservation).

No, wait...that's true.

4. Mark Neumann was begged to NOT run for Governor in 2010 by the GOP leadership and nearly every conservative group in the state.

No, wait...that's true.

5. Local Milwaukee, Madison & Green Bay conservative talk radio hosts begged Neumann to drop his quixotic gubernatorial effort and switch to run a 2010 Senate campaign.

No, wait...that's true.

6. Mark Neumann ignored the January 2010 secured Walker endorsements by 98% of all Wisconsin state representatives and senators and engaged in a dishonorable smear tactic-filled GOP gubernatorial primary against Walker in 2010.

No, wait...that's true.

7. Mark Neumann - despite trailing 3-1 in polls and with the Wisconsin GOP readying itself to make an unprecedented convention endorsement (in a contested state race) for Walker - staged a phony skirmish at the convention and initially claimed that he had been roughed up and kicked out of the state party convention.

No, wait...that's true.

8. Mark Neumann publicly threatened to quit his 2010 gubernatorial primary race (Wisconsin law prohibits primary losers from running as an independent candidate in the general election) to run an independent centrist campaign to the LEFT of Scott Walker.

No, wait...that's true, too.

9. Mark Neumann sided with liberals on the issue of Citizens United and constitutioanlly protected free speech.

No, wait...that's true.

10. Mark Neumann is a 4-time elctoral loser in Wisconsin politics.

No, wait...that's true, too. (US Congress in 1992 & 1993, US Senate in 1998 and Wisconsin Gubernatorial Primary in 2010)

I guess I really should stop lying about Mark Neumann.

49 posted on 08/09/2012 3:06:36 PM PDT by Sideshow Bob
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To: Syncro; fieldmarshaldj; Sideshow Bob

http://www.wispolitics.com/1006/080912RacineTEA.pdf

CONFUSION IN WI US SENATE RACE?

Racine, WI – There seems to be quite a bit of confusion happening in Wisconsin regarding the recent endorsement from a national TEA Party organization for a US Senate candidate. Although we respect the work that TEA Party Express has done in and around the country, every TEA group both nationally and in the state of WI, are not always all aligned with their complete platform or candidate choices.

In light of this fact, TPE may endorse Mark Neumann while the TEA movement of WI is split on their support of the three other candidates for a variety of reasons. All four fiscal conservative candidates running for office against Tammy Baldwin are much better suited to make the tough economic decisions we need versus the liberal alternative.

In a recent press release several members of the Racine TEA Party and a variety of state-wide leaders and activists supported Eric Hovde as individuals; being very clear not to claim they represent their respective groups in their personal endorsement.

While Racine TEA Party does not, and will not not speak for our leaderless movement, we would like to make it clear that neither does a national group out of California. If there are any undecided grassroots voters left in the state, they are able to look to their local TEA groups for information and guidance on the candidates.

Many Wisconsin based groups who have worked and fought tirelessly in our state over the years, know and understand the candidates running for our Wisconsin US Senate seat better than anyone. Regardless of the outcome of Tuesday’s election, we are confident whomever of the four wins the primary election will have combined support from us all.


52 posted on 08/10/2012 5:43:16 AM PDT by LouD (I stand with Scott Walker)
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