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To: Meet the New Boss
As to where she had the baby, I don’t know. The shenanigans surrounding the birth certificate do suggest to me the cover-up has something to do with place of birth.

The latest Arpaio press conference proved that anyone could easily obtain a birth certificate saying "born in Hawaii" even if the child was born elsewhere, or some time ago. So, if SAD and BHO were the parents, there would be no need for a forgery, even if Zero were born elsewhere. Or, if SAD was the mother and another man the father, the forgery would not have needed to mess around with her name, only the father's. Yet her name is messed with - layers - part ball point pen and part fine tip marker, which did not exist in 1961. So, if she was the mother, and a "fake but real" birth certificate could have been obtained no matter where the birth took place, there would have been no need to forger a b.c. with her name on it. Her name would have already been on a birth certificate.

63 posted on 08/01/2012 11:01:02 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: little jeremiah

Except there would have been a problem if Grandma Toot had filed a birth certificate saying “born in Hawaii” and had listed it as a home birth at the Dunhams’ address.

The problem is that there was another family living in that house with the Dunhams. The daughter in that family has already said she doesn’t remember any baby there.

If they were relying on such a birth certificate, the story of where he was born would fall apart as soon as any reporter or investigator talked to that other family.

That would give a motive for forging the birth certificate to show it as a hospital where lots of babies were being born, it wouldn’t matter if no one remembered him and privacy laws would protect the records from prying eyes.


67 posted on 08/01/2012 11:14:55 PM PDT by Meet the New Boss
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To: little jeremiah; LucyT
“So, if she was the mother, and a “fake but real” birth certificate could have been obtained no matter where the birth took place, there would have been no need to forger a b.c. with her name on it. Her name would have already been on a birth certificate.”

You are missing some key possible motivations for the White House forgery.

Yes, Barry could have obtained his 2007 issued COLB by filing a registration of an original or amended birth event attested to by witnesses and/or “evidence” at any time up to and including 2007 with all of the information shown on that COLB.

But what FReeper Danae showed was that she could obtain right up until 2011 a certified image of her original 1961 LFBC. THAT is NOT something that can be ginned up at any time after the original 1961 period, which Barry has led everyone to expect should be the case.

Barry backed himself into a corner by leading people to expect an LFBC EXACTLY LIKE the Nordyke twins LFBCs. The twings BC's showed Kapiolani as the hospital and had specific registrar and MD signatures appropriate for 1961 that couldn't be obtained for an after the fact HI registration...without resorting to forgery.

According the the Arpaio Posse research, the LFBC is 100% an electronic construct compiled from elements that were forged or cut and pasted from who knows where, but that pdf DOES NOT EXIST as a paper document anywhere.

Therefore speculation about how Stanley Ann's signature was forged or whether it appeared or in what form on an original 1961 HI LFBC can NOT be based on the White House pdf image, IMO.

80 posted on 08/02/2012 12:42:42 PM PDT by Seizethecarp
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