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To: Fred Nerks; upcountry miss; Albertafriend; GregH; notted; Jedidah; aragorn; ...

I’m pinging the small list as there is a lot of new info posted. I am going to post shortly a sort of quick and dirty very abbreviated summary of the general picture of what is known about Zero (or known NOT to be true) and hopefully those who know more will correct me.

This comment is very interesting as Zero is quoted as saying he went to Indonesia at age 2. Of coure with news articles it is never know how much is fact and how much is fiction. But if he went that early, it was definitely before his purported mother Stanley Ann was married to Lolo Soetoro. So who did he stay with? There are photos of a very young Zero and a rather well to do looking Indonesian family, not a Stanley Ann in sight. In fact, a rather touching photo of Zero who looks about 4 or at most 5 years old leaning on an elderly Indonesian grandmother.

Were they the Soebarkah family?

And maybe his Noelani kindergarten records are missing - because there never were any!


1,509 posted on 05/18/2013 8:42:59 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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Here is my feeble quick and dirty summary (Part One), leaving many things out.

For starters, his date of birth is unknown, his place of birth is unknown, and his birth parents are unknown. The mythical life created by Bill Ayrers is a made up backstory to give this unknown entity a “life” that would enable him to become president. How do we know his so-called life is fake?

Well, for one thing all his documents are forged; the few that have been (sort of) made available. Almost all documents from his life are scrubbed, hidden, unavailable. Why would someone have all forged documents if the info on them was accurate? Hint: they would not. People need fake IDs because the real identity would be incriminating. If only some of the info on the forged documents had to be “fixed” such as place of birth, or father (for instance), such bits could easily have been changed without having to create an entire phony document.

Okay.

Now, so much research has been done about this topic - for years - I can only present a few things that come to my mind as being clues or keys to seeing the real picture take a little shape in the mists or fogs of lies.

His purported mother, Stanley Ann Dunham, was not in Hawaii at the time frame claimed, no evidence for her presence there until Zero was around two and a half years old. Oddly enough, she doesn’t appear to have been in Mercer Island for what would have been her senior year of high school, either. All yearbooks were removed, the few photos that were made public oddly enough didn’t have the whole page showing, some look photoshopped, etc. And many people who knew her then were told to say nothing. There is a veil of silence. It looks as though she may have been in Chicago with the uncle Charles Payne. Doing what?

She appears with a new baby in Seattle, driving a car (supposedly), and the baby appears to be 3 weeks old but she doesn’t know how to change diapers. Why is that? Probably because she was just given the child to take care of. Any mother would know after a few weeks how to diaper a baby. She’s off to Boston supposedly to see her “husband” Barack Hussein Obamba, but he was actually still in Hawaii at that time - for another year.

IIRC, Malcolm X lived in Boston at that time.

Keep in mind there are no photos of SAD with a child Zero until he’s about 2 1/2 to 3, in Hawaii.

Where was Zero living between the Susan Blake visit and the HI photos? And who was he living with?

It looks as though the Kenyan 0bama was chosen to be the official father since he was black and was willing to play the part (a bit part indeed), and since he liked to live large, there was probably some remuneration (just my hunch). SAD was chosen to play the mother since babies need a mother type person to care for them, and he needed one white parent since he was rather light colored.

And since there was a web of communists and black racists in Hawaii and Chicago as well as of course other places, various paths crossed and criscrossed. The number of people involved in this counterfeit is very large.

This is not a wingnut fantasy. By reading the long threads that started in 2008, it gradually became clear to even my less than stellar mental powers that the Kenyan could not possibly have been the father; the documentation did not support it, there was not one witness every putting him and SAD and the child in one place, or even any two of them. None. no common address, no photo, no witnesses, nothing. Plus Zero looks nothing like him at all.

Then it sunk in after one long thread (link upon request), that SAD was not the mother. The “Anna Obama” in Seattle was obvously someone else altogether. So, there was a child originally named Barack Hussein Obama, the son of BHO from Kenya, and a woman named Anna.

But that child is not the man in the White House.


1,510 posted on 05/18/2013 9:11:52 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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We made the 'dicovery' very early on, that there's a good reason 'Dreams' is without chronology, it makes it impossible to follow where he was and when...and it's not just sloppy writing, it's absolutely deliberate and all I am doing is showing the reader how zero himself carries on with this...there's an article somewhere in which he also maintains he spent more of his childhood in Kenya! than in Hawaii. Anyone who tries to fix a timeline to this character is going to end up climbing the wall!

Just take it as a given. You don't know where he came from and you don't know where he was much of the time.

But if you take into consideration his possible paternity, the fact that he ended up in Indonesia isn't surprising. The question remains, when did he go there and for how long?

Who was Soebarkah?

1,511 posted on 05/18/2013 9:14:27 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (Fair Dinkum!)
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