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Let me say that again and make it clear:

Mary, in her own words, at first interview, said she baby-sat for Anna when her own daughter, who was born in July, 1959, was 18 months of age. She then tried to correct herself by saying the child was seven months of age in August. But as the American Thinker article notes, that still comes back to January 1961.

To jog her memory, Mary recounted the age of her own daughter: "[She] was 18 months old and was born in July of 1959 [this has been verified] and that would have placed the months of babysitting Barack in January and February of 1962." Those dates, however, don't add up. A child born in July 1959 would be 18 months old in January/February of 1961, several months before Ann reportedly moved to Seattle.

Perhaps to rectify this problem, Mary tried another way to remember the time she babysat. In a 2009 WND interview, Mary stated, "My daughter was 18 months old and she just had her 50th birthday this year ... so that would make the time around February and March 1962." Again, the math doesn't work. The year 2009 minus 50 gives us the correct birth year for Mary's child, but adding 18 months again brings us to January/February of 1961.

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1,188 posted on 05/11/2013 10:38:50 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (Come Visit Tasmania!)
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To: Fred Nerks; WildHighlander57; Fantasywriter; LucyT

Mary stated, “My daughter was 18 months old and she just had her 50th birthday this year ... so that would make the time around February and March 1962.”

The 50-year-back memory of any person is far less reliable than the short-term memory which is ALSO regarded as unreliable in any forensic investigation by competent investigators. That is why contemporaneous documents rank far ahead in credibility as “best evidence”.

What the overwhelming cross-corroborated contemporaneous evidence proves beyond any doubt is that Mary Toutonghi’s memory was BAD. 50 years after the fact Mary’s baby was obviously 30 months old, not 18 months.

The U of W state controlled transcript database and micro-fiche confirm that Stanley Ann graduated from Mercer High in 1960, started at U of H for one semester that included a Russian class, started at U of W in the fall of 1961 and has as her address the same address where Mary herself claims that she babysat Barry, not some other baby (Roman Obama) by some other mother (Anna S. Obama, an unknown wife of BHO Sr. in January 1961).

In support of the Mal-Val narrative’s claim that Mary’s memory was correct (as to the 18 month age of her child, but of necessity wrong as to which mother and baby were there) we have ZERO documentation of the alternate wife or of the future Roman Obama even ever having been in the US, much less being in Washington State, Hawaii or the Philippines. ZIP! NADA! No maiden name, birth certificates for either one, no marriage or witnesses to any intimate relationship.

In support of Stanley Ann being the mom in Seattle we have the INS FOIA documents where she is named, her marriage, address, pregnancy, delivery and anticipated arrival in Seattle is all recorded.

As to the picture of Mark and David Obama taken in Kenya circa 1970, the boys appear to be properly about 3 years apart in age judging by the long bones and head to body proportions. Yes, David looks very muck LIKE but DIFFERENT from baby Barry, as two half brothers certainly could. If anything this resemblance is far closer than that of any of the Malcolm X progeny to my eye and lends support to BHO
Sr. being the dad of Barry and David, even though neither of them look like him.

There is no coherent narrative that can place an alleged son of Malcolm X (actually baby David) and Roman Obama of Ghana (actually Mark) in the same place at the same time a grand baby swap in 1963 when they would be only about a year apart instead of three years.

No explanation is given in the Mal-Val narrative as to how Roman Obama, who appears to be 100% African Black would have a NON-African Black mother as would be required of the mother whose baby Mary Toutonghi supposedly babysat for in January 1961 (NOT!).


1,191 posted on 05/12/2013 6:09:09 AM PDT by Seizethecarp ((Defend aircraft from "runway kill zone" mini-drone helicopter swarm attacks: www.runwaykillzone.com)
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