Posted on 08/01/2012 11:18:33 AM PDT by Seizethecarp
"Meet The Parents....of alias Barack Obama. Black Sunni Muslim father and White Lebanese Christian mother. Born in the ME, raised in Indonesia, became BHO II in 1982." Dr. Ron J. Polland
The Mal-Val youtube video at the link was posted by FReeper Polarik (Dr. Ron Polland) in August of 2011 and while morphing the image of a woman named Val into an image of Obama, he insinuates that Val is Obamas mom. One year later this youtube has only 1,150 views.
In July 2012, two FReepers associated the woman, Val, in Polariks Youtube with Lebanese actress Valerie Sarruf and have posted multiple images of her at various ages on FR eligibility threads. I am opening this thread to invite discussion of and links to any evidence that either supports or refutes a claim that Valerie Sarruf is Barack Obamas mother, with or without Malcolm X being his father.
Where could Malcolm X and Valerie Sarruf have been in 1960 when baby Barry would have been conceived? Is there any evidence that Sarruf could have been pregnant and delivered a baby in 1961? In what country could the baby have been delivered? How and when could the alleged Mal-Val baby have been inserted into the identity and life narrative of the person we have come to know as Barack Hussein Obama?
Full disclosure: I refute categorically all of the Mal-Val narrative as wildly speculative and unsupported by any evidence that I have seen so far.
For several years now a shadowy coterie of FReepers styling themselves as researchers has gone onto nearly every FR eligibility thread to aggressively refute all evidence that Stanley Ann Dunham was Barack Obamas mother. They have actually declared flat out that she was never in Hawaii before 1963, contrary to the voluminous evidence including INS FOIA documents!
Requests for links or any evidence that Stanley Ann is NOT the mom have been frequently met with abusive ad hominem attacks and accompanied by claims that ALL documentary evidence showing her to have been in Hawaii in 1960 and 1961 is forged, but no credible evidence of forgery has offered. I make this observation as a retired Certified Fraud Examiner and CPA.
For years the researchers had claimed mysteriously to have conclusive evidence that a different woman is Barrys mom, but refused to reveal her name or any evidence other than her picture because the researchers claimed it would disappear from the net and/or from hard copy archives of the records. But this month, the researchers appear to have slipped up and revealed that Valerie Sarruf has been the woman whose identity they have been protecting. They have since attempted to walk back the revelation, but it is clear, IMO.
The researchers claim that they earnestly want to remove Obama from office. But wouldnt revealing ALL EVIDENCE of a foreign mother and foreign birth (which they also claim) be the most logical approach to removing Obama rather than hiding the identity of this alternative mother for years while attacking FR threads that sincerely attempt to find out where Stanley Ann Dunham was when she gave birth to Barry?
In my opinion, the best evidence that Valerie Sarruf is NOT Barrys mother is the mountain of evidence that Stanley Ann Dunham IS his mother, which the researchers have totally failed to refute.
Again, please use this thread for discussion of and links to any evidence that either supports or refutes a claim that Valerie Sarruf IS Barack Obamas mother with or without Malcolm X being his father.
Meet Mark Okoth Obama Ndesandjo, the China-based son of Barack Sr.s third wife. A dream about the biblical Daniel prompted him to reconnect with the president
http://www.birtherreport.com/2013/12/ap-interviews-obama-brother-lot-of.html
exerpt:
The 500-page book includes an appendix listing a number of alleged factual errors in Obama’s 1995 memoir, “Dreams from my Father,” such as quotes incorrectly attributed to Ndesandjo’s mother.
“It’s a correction. A lot of the stuff that Barack wrote is wrong in that book and I can understand that because to me for him the book was a tool for fashioning an identity and he was using composites,” Ndesandjo said.
Okay, now I get it.
So the image up the thread changed...
Very odd.
Thanks for the ping, watched the video, his nose shrunk, did it? This is zero launching his new ID in public for the first time. ‘Dreams From My Father’ goes into operation. He’s well rehearsed, the audience is gullible. Perfect.
And Frank Marshall Davis isn’t a known communist, he’s a poet.
Bookmarking....
Many thanks for the synopsis!
Anna Obama was the woman whose child Mary babysat in January 1961, when Marys daughter, who was born in July 1959 was 18 months of age. Anna Obama was listed in the Honolulu Polk as Ann S Obama, at the Dunham address, which house Stanley Armour Dunham and his wife Madelyn were sharing.
Stanley Ann Dunham was not shown as living at that same address. The reason no one saw her in Hawaii was because she wasnt there.
Late 1960 early 1961, Anna Obama rented a room at the Seattle address, it was Anna Obama who approached the Salvation Army in April 1961 about having her child adopted out, after she discovered that the Kenyan student was already married in Kenya.
Neither the Kenyan student nor Anna are in any way related to zero.
Cross-posting excellent exhibits by WH57:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3407407/posts?page=187#187
Note this post:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-backroom/2913366/posts?page=1833#1833
Fantasywriters reply:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-backroom/2913366/posts?page=1834#1834
But see this post:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3407407/posts?page=232#232
What changed?
Cross-posting WH57 finding Roman Obama’s mom’s announcement of the death of his mom who is NOT any known actor in the great Baby Swap narrative spun on the Mal-Val pages to date.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3407407/posts?page=294#294
Bkmk
I wonder...it seems she never married? She did naturalize as a UK citizen from Lebanese in recent years.
She's getting older:
oh my poor eyes!
Val was born in 1940.
Hillary must be touching ninety, judging by that photo. And John T is waaaaaaaaaaaay past his use-by-date.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/backroom/2913366/posts?page=1084#1084
LOOKS LIKE WE HAVE A MISTAKE THAT GOES WAY BACK
“4 Gabrielle Marie TOUTONGHI b: 6 JUL 1959 (18 months old when her mother babysat 0bama)”
Is there anyway this can be checked?
What’s the mistake?
One theory I heard recently was that Barry wasn’t his purported mother’s son at all, but an illegitimate son of the 9th Rama of Thailand, who was given to the young second-generation CIA woman to raise as a favor and safe-keeping for the Rama. The Rama btw was a musician and composer of jazz, so hanging around a surprising number of black folks around the supposed time of this.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/2821875/posts?page=425#425
we have July 1959, this entry shows June, 1959. Is there any way we can check which is correct?
I took the date from the Charlette Le Fevre article.
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