Freepmail me if you want on/off this narrowly focused ping list. As I thought, it seems that this topic is heating up. More people are wondering who the he!! IS he and from whence and whom did he spring???
Posted on 08/01/2012 11:18:33 AM PDT by Seizethecarp
"Meet The Parents....of alias Barack Obama. Black Sunni Muslim father and White Lebanese Christian mother. Born in the ME, raised in Indonesia, became BHO II in 1982." Dr. Ron J. Polland
The “Mal-Val” youtube video at the link was posted by FReeper Polarik (Dr. Ron Polland) in August of 2011 and while morphing the image of a woman named “Val” into an image of Obama, he insinuates that “Val” is Obama’s mom. One year later this youtube has only 1,150 views.
In July 2012, two FReepers associated the woman, “Val,” in Polarik’s Youtube with Lebanese actress Valerie Sarruf and have posted multiple images of her at various ages on FR eligibility threads. I am opening this thread to invite discussion of and links to any evidence that either supports or refutes a claim that Valerie Sarruf is Barack Obama’s mother, with or without Malcolm X being his father.
Where could Malcolm X and Valerie Sarruf have been in 1960 when baby Barry would have been conceived? Is there any evidence that Sarruf could have been pregnant and delivered a baby in 1961? In what country could the baby have been delivered? How and when could the alleged Mal-Val baby have been inserted into the identity and life narrative of the person we have come to know as Barack Hussein Obama?
Full disclosure: I refute categorically all of the Mal-Val narrative as wildly speculative and unsupported by any evidence that I have seen so far.
For several years now a shadowy coterie of FReepers styling themselves as “researchers” has gone onto nearly every FR eligibility thread to aggressively refute all evidence that Stanley Ann Dunham was Barack Obama’s mother. They have actually declared flat out that she was never in Hawaii before 1963, contrary to the voluminous evidence including INS FOIA documents!
Requests for links or any evidence that Stanley Ann is NOT the mom have been frequently met with abusive ad hominem attacks and accompanied by claims that ALL documentary evidence showing her to have been in Hawaii in 1960 and 1961 is forged, but no credible evidence of forgery has offered. I make this observation as a retired Certified Fraud Examiner and CPA.
For years the “researchers” had claimed mysteriously to have conclusive evidence that a different woman is Barry’s mom, but refused to reveal her name or any evidence other than her picture because the “researchers” claimed it would disappear from the net and/or from hard copy archives of the records. But this month, the “researchers” appear to have slipped up and revealed that Valerie Sarruf has been the woman whose identity they have been “protecting.” They have since attempted to walk back the revelation, but it is clear, IMO.
The “researchers” claim that they earnestly want to remove Obama from office. But wouldn’t revealing ALL EVIDENCE of a foreign mother and foreign birth (which they also claim) be the most logical approach to removing Obama rather than hiding the identity of this alternative mother for years while attacking FR threads that sincerely attempt to find out where Stanley Ann Dunham was when she gave birth to Barry?
In my opinion, the best evidence that Valerie Sarruf is NOT Barry’s mother is the mountain of evidence that Stanley Ann Dunham IS his mother, which the “researchers” have totally failed to refute.
Again, please use this thread for discussion of and links to any evidence that either supports or refutes a claim that Valerie Sarruf IS Barack Obama’s mother with or without Malcolm X being his father.
I figured you meant the PI, with my fevered brain, I just wanted to make sure there wasn’t some new stuff I didn’t now!
Whoops! This is the thread I wasn’t supposed to post any more comments on, I replied to Brown Deer’s ping without thinking...
So if I’m gone when you get back or the thread’s been pulled, you’ll know why and - can I blame you, Brown Deer?
Add me to the list please.
Freepmail me if you want on/off this narrowly focused ping list. As I thought, it seems that this topic is heating up. More people are wondering who the he!! IS he and from whence and whom did he spring???
Cross-posting:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/3029745/posts?page=509#509
“Kessler’s rant was extremely foolish. Perhaps drink-inspired.”
I agree, Kenny Bunk. Kessler strikes me as having walked into Zullo’s presentation cold knowing nothing of the evidence and wildly exaggerated when Zullo actually said as well as conflating speculation with evidence.
Subsequent to last Monday when Kessler went on his rant and follow-up Facebook claims since retracted, Zullo has given an interview where he directly contradicts Kessler’s claims that Zullo had privately presented proof that Barry was NOT Kenyan and that Stanley Ann was NOT his mom or that Barry was a Saudi.
509 posted on Thursday, June 13, 2013 11:13:34 AM by Seizethecarp
That’s brilliant!
From your description, he shouldn’t know anyone that well except for his wife or mother. Hard to say more as someone has buried the pic you linked to. Funny thing that, Obama and his buried queries....Pictures, text, records, and people too.
FYI update to Mal-Val thread...
Cross-posting:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/3049029/posts?page=170#170
According to a biographical history of the Obama family, written by Peter Firstbrook, The Obamas: The Untold Story of an African Family (2010), BHO Sr.’s good friend Leo Odera said that BHO Sr. learned, while studying in Hawaii, that back in Kenya his wife Kezia was seen “out and about,” dancing in nightclubs, in the company of other men (page 207). Up to that point, BHO Sr. had remained in touch with his wife and children, via letters; but when he learned from friends in Kenya that Kezia was stepping out, he became, shall we say, disenchanted. He eventually stopped corresponding with his wife altogether when he learned through friends that she was pregnant by another man. He wrote to Odera:
She has disappointed me because she is expecting another child.
http://wtpotus.wordpress.com/2011/11/14/obama-mystery-theater-kezias-baby/
170 posted on Tuesday, July 30, 2013 8:56:44 PM by Fred Nerks (Fair Dinkum!)
Per Seizethecarp:
In the article at the link above (which relies on the highly questionable 50-year-old hearsay memory of a “friend” of BHO Sr evidently intent on establishing some legitimacy for Barry, IMO)...there is a link to an image which appears to be Kezia and Roy’s claim to a part of BHO Sr.’s estate and Kezia is referred to as “widow” indicating claim of a prior legal marriage under Kenyan law as of 1985.
Here is the link to that image:
http://wtpotus.files.wordpress.com/2011/10/kezia-aoko-obama-and-roy-grant-of-letters-re-bho-sr1.jpg
FYI update to Mal-Val thread...
Thanks, Carp. Your post may bring out the barking Moon Bats. Waiting... 1....2....3....
Say, Carp. Been meaning to mention. Someone pointed out that one avatar looked like it belonged in a gynecologist’s office.
He knows something...he keeps trying to tell us something, and I can imagine how frustrating it must be that no one is taking any notice of him.
I’m still waiting to see even one photo of Stanley Ann looking pregnant.
Back in the day being pregnant was something to be hidden! “Belly bumps” were NOT advertised.
I can remember only one picture of my mom pregnant out of her four pregnancies...and that was at a wedding party where she would have difficulty ducking out.
There’s a big difference between a 1960s woman avoiding the camera and having no one at all remember that she was pregnant.
There are no pictures whatsoever of my parents’ wedding, but there were many witnesses who have described the scene in detail to me.
In the case of Stanley Ann Dunham, we have neither photographic nor eyewitness evidence of a pregnancy.
It became apparent to me several years ago that we will never know who 0 is by following planted crumbs like Hansel and Gretel did.
However, when you’re hungry, it’s easiest to swallow what’s laid in front of you.
“There’s a big difference between a 1960s woman avoiding the camera and having no one at all remember that she was pregnant.”
The INS FOIA (official US gov’t) docs record that Stanley Ann was pregnant, reportedly (from the U of HI, another government entity) by BHO Sr. and that the baby was being considered for adoption out to the Salvation Army.
This pregnancy of an 18-year-old white girl with a black sperm donor was a scandal so I am not in the least bit surprised that there are no pictures of this errant young woman “knocked-up” in her freshman year at college.
At to that the numerous witnesses in Kenya and Kenyan Gov’t documents of removal of Mombasa hospital records the week of the birth claimed by Corsi showing high circumstantial evidence that Stanley Ann was in Kenya for the birth and could have arrived there as early as February 1961, the date of her last recorded appearance in HI at her wedding, as noted in the FOIA docs and the divorce decree.
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