. . . . Check out #1,460 , 1,467 , 1,471 , and 1,472.
Thanks Brown Deer, and WH57.
Posted on 08/01/2012 11:18:33 AM PDT by Seizethecarp
"Meet The Parents....of alias Barack Obama. Black Sunni Muslim father and White Lebanese Christian mother. Born in the ME, raised in Indonesia, became BHO II in 1982." Dr. Ron J. Polland
The “Mal-Val” youtube video at the link was posted by FReeper Polarik (Dr. Ron Polland) in August of 2011 and while morphing the image of a woman named “Val” into an image of Obama, he insinuates that “Val” is Obama’s mom. One year later this youtube has only 1,150 views.
In July 2012, two FReepers associated the woman, “Val,” in Polarik’s Youtube with Lebanese actress Valerie Sarruf and have posted multiple images of her at various ages on FR eligibility threads. I am opening this thread to invite discussion of and links to any evidence that either supports or refutes a claim that Valerie Sarruf is Barack Obama’s mother, with or without Malcolm X being his father.
Where could Malcolm X and Valerie Sarruf have been in 1960 when baby Barry would have been conceived? Is there any evidence that Sarruf could have been pregnant and delivered a baby in 1961? In what country could the baby have been delivered? How and when could the alleged Mal-Val baby have been inserted into the identity and life narrative of the person we have come to know as Barack Hussein Obama?
Full disclosure: I refute categorically all of the Mal-Val narrative as wildly speculative and unsupported by any evidence that I have seen so far.
For several years now a shadowy coterie of FReepers styling themselves as “researchers” has gone onto nearly every FR eligibility thread to aggressively refute all evidence that Stanley Ann Dunham was Barack Obama’s mother. They have actually declared flat out that she was never in Hawaii before 1963, contrary to the voluminous evidence including INS FOIA documents!
Requests for links or any evidence that Stanley Ann is NOT the mom have been frequently met with abusive ad hominem attacks and accompanied by claims that ALL documentary evidence showing her to have been in Hawaii in 1960 and 1961 is forged, but no credible evidence of forgery has offered. I make this observation as a retired Certified Fraud Examiner and CPA.
For years the “researchers” had claimed mysteriously to have conclusive evidence that a different woman is Barry’s mom, but refused to reveal her name or any evidence other than her picture because the “researchers” claimed it would disappear from the net and/or from hard copy archives of the records. But this month, the “researchers” appear to have slipped up and revealed that Valerie Sarruf has been the woman whose identity they have been “protecting.” They have since attempted to walk back the revelation, but it is clear, IMO.
The “researchers” claim that they earnestly want to remove Obama from office. But wouldn’t revealing ALL EVIDENCE of a foreign mother and foreign birth (which they also claim) be the most logical approach to removing Obama rather than hiding the identity of this alternative mother for years while attacking FR threads that sincerely attempt to find out where Stanley Ann Dunham was when she gave birth to Barry?
In my opinion, the best evidence that Valerie Sarruf is NOT Barry’s mother is the mountain of evidence that Stanley Ann Dunham IS his mother, which the “researchers” have totally failed to refute.
Again, please use this thread for discussion of and links to any evidence that either supports or refutes a claim that Valerie Sarruf IS Barack Obama’s mother with or without Malcolm X being his father.
OMG! He used as sources, the very same people who STARTED the ANNA OBAMA is Stanley Ann Dunham myth!
I think I am going to throw up now.
I was comparing the three dates shown in the TECS II paper for SADO, with some of the events in Kenya, namely the hospitalizations of Kenyan Guy...
to see if anything might match up.....
It might be a clue as to her destination .
I thought maybe the unknown lady that Kezia saw in the hospital room was SADO.
But as you say, it may have been Ruth.
Now we have “back-of-head lady with infant” -abbreviated “BoHLWI”- to figure into it.
>-<
Take care of that ache, & seeya on the flip side.
P.S.
Those American thinker articles are interesting many thanks for posting them
Brown Deer, thanks for posting the screencaps!
FredNerks,
In the second screencap, the post by Joelle Hannum talks about a classmate of SADO’s also having been involved with black guy(s).
(Blue circle)
Another mystery lady to track down.
Might as well call her SAD, there is not any evidence she ever really had an “O” name.
SAD and Ruth look very dissimilar, though.
There is no evidence that SAD ever had anything to do with any black men, actually. SHe’s a prop - a nanny posing as a mother.
CROSS POSTING:
To: Fantasywriter
I just read an interview w Stanley Ann’s best friend in HS,Maxine Box. According to Box,Stanley was there during her senior year,and went from Mercer Island to HI w her family.
My question is this. What reason would Boxhave for lying? Do you honestly believe she has been threatened or bribed to lie? If so,by whom,and why? Wouldn’t it be risky to send out people to bribe and threaten every single person who knew SAD in HS and in the Universalist Church,and to do this even prior to the ‘08 election? All it would take is one person speaking up on the record,and at least on sites like this we would know the truth. Do you honestly believe every single acquaintance of Stanley Ann in her Mercer Island days went along w the fraud? If so,why? Universalist Church,and to do this even prior to the ‘08 election? All it would take is one person speaking up on the record,and at least on sites like this we would know the truth. Do you honestly believe every single acquaintance of Stanley Ann in her Mercer Island days went along w the fraud? If so,why?”
Exactly.
Did they get to EVERYBODY?
The odds of that succeeding is slim; what if there was a classmate with nothing to lose?
Anybody try classmates.com?
Namesof interest
Jill Burton-dascher
chip wall
Maxine box
Elaine Johnson
John hunt
Susan Blake
I found them doing Google search on Mercer island huh school yearbook.
58 posted on Friday, 15 June 2012 5:04:36 AM by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57 returning after lurking since 2000))
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I’m frustrated no one will answer these questions. It’s fine to go after those who disagree, but it’s better by far to offer evidence to make your case. If anybody wants to know why I believe Obama was born in Kenya, I’ve got all my ducks in a row. I may not always have time to lay out the complete case at that instant, but I can pretty much guarantee to do it w’in a 24 hr period. In fact, I’m delighted to do it. Why do we get all these arcane theories, yet so little hard evidence to back them up? Questioning elaborate, unproven theories is not in and of itself a crime. Getting answers to some of those questions—now that would be the icing on the cake.
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REMEMBER? IF YOU WANT JOELLE TRACKED DOWN, YOU DO IT. SHE WON’T BE HARD TO FIND.
Frank Hardy has found another clue that bolsters his argument. In an online forum dated March 14, 2009, Ann’s high-school classmate Joelle Hannum comments innocently, “I can remember the rumors about [Ann] and another classmate who were involved with and married African-American men, and believe me in those days it was looked at with a LOT of negativity.” As another friend had earlier testified, Ann never dated “the crew-cut white boys.”
A thorough investigator, Hardy called Joelle Hannum to follow up. He immediately wrote down what she told him: “By request of President Obama, we [she and her classmates] have decided not to give out any more information. I have to hang up now. Goodbye.”
I am occasionally asked why any of this matters. The fact is that Obama rode to the presidency on an apocryphal story. The dissembling that he has had to do to hold it together has cost at least one good man his freedom and his career.
Read more at http://www.wnd.com/2011/01/253097/#Tyq3RPzoZEodYf8R.99
http://www.wnd.com/2011/01/253097/
Every now and then I make the mistake of replying to you. I don’t know why I bother, your responses never make any sense. Please, from now on, may I suggest if you can’t contribute, don’t address your comments to me.
Thanks for your question in #1458; in my post #1462 is where I clarified what I was getting at concerning lady seen at hospital.
Questions by me in post #1466 prompted your answer in #1467; the information in there is EXTREMELY important.
Given the majorly scandalous and high crimes and misdemeanors type behavior and actions by the occupant of the white house, it is vitally important that the questions be asked.
Without questions there are no answers.
Many thanks for providing the answers!
Responding ito your #1464,
thanks for the info; it clarifies who Kezia saw in the hospital.
Re your #1465,
the classmates comment about another girl that ran around w black guys could provide a lead as to 0’ s real mom .
If that gal was good friends with SAD, then that could explain why SAD would be a nanny to the kid when she came back to Seattle.
If that gal got pregnant EARLIER than when SAD SUPPOSEDLY did, that would explain a January birth.
Question to research: when and for how long was Malcolm x in Seattle?
From the cashill article:
“.....A thorough investigator,Hardy called Joelle Hannum to follow up. He immediately wrote down what she told him: “By request of President Obama,we [she and her classmates] have decided not to give out any more information. I have to hang up now. Goodbye.”
Brown deer, Fred Nerks
This information needs to be sent to the people getting on 0’s case about the other scandals.
Establishes a pattern of intimidation by 0, and shows his criminal behavior.
Something that got him killed.....
That’s supposed to be Nancy.
. . . . Check out #1,460 , 1,467 , 1,471 , and 1,472.
Thanks Brown Deer, and WH57.
The myth that Stanely Ann liked to run around with black men is vital to keep the house of cards up. Other than innuendo and lies, there is no substance to this myth.
the classmates comment about another girl that ran around w black guys could provide a lead as to 0’ s real mom .
If that gal was good friends with SAD, then that could explain why SAD would be a nanny to the kid when she came back to Seattle.
If that gal got pregnant EARLIER than when SAD SUPPOSEDLY did, that would explain a January birth.
Question to research: when and for how long was Malcolm x in Seattle?
I don’t see why a former classmate of SAD’s would have anything to do with who 0moslem’s mother might be. There is nothing at all to connect her to this history other than the fact that she attended the same school for some years. She was also willing make the unsubstantiated claim that SAD dated black men (no evidence) and then later submitted to the “president” and shut up. Now why would the “president” want her to shut up, one might wonder? Obviously because she knows things that would prove his mythical history false.
Isn’t that only according to that Martha nutjob?
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I've often wondered about that. The stakes are high enough, so it's possible.
That film was released in the US in December 1959 iirc, and she wasn't sixteen 'then' - she was apparently born in November 1942...but what was interesting was; she says, in words Ayres puts into her mouth, that she was working as an au pair...and an au pair is a polite french name for a NANNY.
What Ayres may have inadvertently revealed is where she was when she was 16. In Chicago. Perhaps living with her Uncle Charles T Payne, who was Deputy Director of the University of Chicago Library...for something like 60 years, until his retirement.
Uncle Charles was there while zero was a lecturer in law at the U of Chicago, and his wife Melanie was on a committee in some small way with the wife of David Axelrod. They all lived in Hyde Park.
So you see, there's always more there there, if you look past the idiotic statements made by twits like Joelle - who knows how implausaible it is, that a high school girl who never dated any boy, would suddenly show up with the black child of a Kenyan Native as black as coal and already an anti-colonial, marxist to boot.
What Joelle should have been asked for is a copy of her yearbook - we still haven't seen anything on a full page that shows Stanley Ann graduated from Mercer Island High School in 1960.
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