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Our rights in crowded theaters (Please don't read while eating)
The Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel ^ | July 22, 2012 | James Rowen

Posted on 07/22/2012 9:00:38 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Every American student who's taken a civic class has heard Justice Oliver Wendell Holmes, Jr.'s admonition that free speech under the US Constitution doesn't give you the right to shout "fire" in a crowded theater.

So the right to bear arms under the 2nd amendment - - written at a time when citizen militias might be needed to fend off the British or a foreign power intent on undermining the new Republic - - shouldn't mean someone has the right to barge into a crowded theater, open fire and slaughter people with powerful guns and ammunition obtained legally.

Yet we have allowed the NRA and allied wealthy conservative organizations with political and electoral agendas to distort legitimate gun ownership for hunting purposes into gun ownership without effective controls that jeopardizes public safety.

Bill Moyers has an eloquent essay about this, here.

The proof is the disproportionate share of the industrialized world's gun violence that afflicts the US, year-in and year-out.

These massacres bring concern for victims, but no remedial controls: the Aurora shootings came but five years after a higher death toll in a mass shooting at Virginia Tech, and Colorado did not toughen its gun laws after the Columbine school killings not far from Aurora...

(Excerpt) Read more at jsonline.com ...


TOPICS: Heated Discussion
KEYWORDS: aurora; banglist; colorado; occupy
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To: HiTech RedNeck

He was very lucky he was in Batman movie and not true grit


81 posted on 07/22/2012 11:47:23 PM PDT by Blitzcreek
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To: Blitzcreek

Well, a fire exit that you can quietly let a gaggle of nonpaying friends in to the movie, isn’t the most conducive to that.


82 posted on 07/22/2012 11:49:00 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (let me ABOs run loose, lew (or is that lou?))
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To: Blitzcreek

Instead of the orange hairdo he’d be up there in camos?


83 posted on 07/22/2012 11:49:47 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (let me ABOs run loose, lew (or is that lou?))
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To: Tzar

I prefer the first one to the second option


85 posted on 07/23/2012 1:31:18 AM PDT by Blitzcreek
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To: HiTech RedNeck

No... he would be in hell right now


86 posted on 07/23/2012 1:32:05 AM PDT by Blitzcreek
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To: Dilbert San Diego
American students don’t take civics classes anymore. These kids today have no idea who Oliver Wendell Holmes was.

Sure they do. He was that detective in the movie with a sidekick named Watson.

/s

87 posted on 07/23/2012 1:33:16 AM PDT by SIDENET ("If that's your best, your best won't do." -Dee Snider)
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To: umgud

The theater is a place of free speech, and to see places of free speech while people walk around without weapon just shows how dum America has become.


88 posted on 07/23/2012 1:34:39 AM PDT by JudgemAll (Democrats Fed. job-security Whorocracy & hate:hypocrites must be gay like us or be tested/crucified)
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To: umgud

The theater is a place of free speech, and to see places of free speech while people walk around without weapon just shows how dum America has become...

oh, and next after that, the pink gays are going to be free to make their war on us...

This thing is a Trayvon set up by the gay terrorists. I think I smell a Bill Ayer type terror operation getting covered up.


89 posted on 07/23/2012 1:36:34 AM PDT by JudgemAll (Democrats Fed. job-security Whorocracy & hate:hypocrites must be gay like us or be tested/crucified)
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To: Blitzcreek

The patrons would come in ready for war?


90 posted on 07/23/2012 2:40:48 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (let me ABOs run loose, lew (or is that lou?))
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

91 posted on 07/23/2012 3:38:25 AM PDT by Emperor Palpatine (Tosca, mi fai dimenticare Iddio!!!!!)
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To: Dilbert San Diego
Sure they do......he was that guy Eddie Albert played on "Green Acres".


>-)

92 posted on 07/23/2012 3:42:57 AM PDT by Emperor Palpatine (Tosca, mi fai dimenticare Iddio!!!!!)
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To: Talisker; All
And after that, there would NEVER be another gun grabber political attack in America again.

I used to think that you were correct. Sadly, you are not.

What would happen would be that the MSM would minimize it or downplay it. Remember the mass shooting outside of Denver that was stopped by the lady shooter in the church? It got the most play.

There was the shooter in the California gun store that was stopped by an armed employee. He had plans for mass murder in his car. It was barely mentioned, and spiked by the MSM.

The MSM and their "progressive" agenda is the cause of 90 percent of our problems today.

93 posted on 07/23/2012 3:54:41 AM PDT by marktwain
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Plus there’s the deterrent factor.

How many times do these things happen at police stations? Rifle ranges? Gun shows?


94 posted on 07/23/2012 3:58:20 AM PDT by P.O.E. (Pray for America)
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To: mardi59

“I said someone would have had to have the skills of a sniper. He was geared-up which would have made it difficult.”

Have you ever been hit by a bullet wearing body armor? It hurts like Hell. It stings and will get your attention. Body armor does not mean you are impervious to bullets. They do have an effect. That’s all a shooter needs to finish him off.

When a report says “body armor”, it isn’t a suit head to toe and he can’t just stand there and take unlimited shots from people.


95 posted on 07/23/2012 8:32:34 AM PDT by CodeToad (History says our end is near.)
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To: Emperor Palpatine

LOL. Ya, Eddie Albert was Oliver Wendell Douglas on Green Acres. So kids may know about him, if they watch those old reruns, instead of all the reality nonsense on TV today.


96 posted on 07/23/2012 9:19:35 AM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: Tzar

Unfortunately tzar your NOT to carry a gun to a bar to begin with


98 posted on 07/23/2012 11:12:41 PM PDT by Blitzcreek
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To: Tzar

Unfortunately tzar your NOT to carry a gun to a bar to begin with


99 posted on 07/23/2012 11:12:56 PM PDT by Blitzcreek
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To: Tzar

Last month where I am from there was an incedent that a couple got robbed the man was beat and left while the woman was raped now had the man or woman been carrying a gun the suspect would have not gotten away


100 posted on 07/23/2012 11:24:08 PM PDT by Blitzcreek
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