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To: CodeToad

Ok...maybe comparing the southerners to the Nazi’s was a bit harsh......maybe. You have quoted Lincoln correctly but, you must remember that the man was a politician. His ultimae goal was always to end slavery but, it was a labyrinth of games, double talk, speeches, and gamesmenship. All politicians try to please all sides at once, surely you know this? In the end, slavery was anded. And, it was ended by President Lincoln. That’s the only fact that matters.

As far as your thoughts on my opinion of the south goes, yes, I suppose I do think the south has a cross to bear when it comes to their history on race, slavery, and civil rights. It’s a pretty ugly period right up to the 1960’s. The only thing I will concede in your defense is that Northern racism has gone under reported by historians. Perhaps you should be the one to start reporting on it.


144 posted on 07/07/2012 12:08:18 PM PDT by Mustangman (The GOP)
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To: Mustangman

The ENTIRE country has a cross to bear as do the blacks themselves. Blacks started slavery in the New World as it was a black man that enslaved another black man. Blacks perpetuate racism even today as much as any white man ever did. Racism will never end because we make laws. Morality cannot be legislated. Hatred is a hard thing to overcome, but so long as the greedy find profit in hate they will keep the hatred alive. We have to take the profit out of hate and that means ending Affirmative Action, welfare, and all other monetary benefits of claiming whites owe blacks. Once the people can no longer vote themselves money from the treasury through corrupt politicians using hatred as the vehicle, hatred has no more profit.


148 posted on 07/07/2012 12:19:23 PM PDT by CodeToad (uired to vote for a treaty.)
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To: Mustangman

The North and Lincoln could have not had war had they eliminated slavery as did England; by reimbursing the owners for their property and freeing the slaves. No, the Northerners and Lincoln didn’t wish to do that because they preferred to beat down the South and forever take away the political power that they possessed. It was about power. Lincoln didn’t give a tinker’s damn about the slaves and neither did his necrophiliac Secretary of War, Edwin Stanton. One can read Lincoln’s speeches prior to the war and easily see his beliefs. My ancestors fought for the Union...they were from a Tennessee slave owning family that had roots with the American Revolution and the First Continental Congress. They fought for the Union and not for the slaves they possessed.


163 posted on 07/07/2012 2:29:50 PM PDT by vetvetdoug
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