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Ted Nugent: ‘Best’ if South had won Civil War
Seattle Post intelligencer ^ | July 6, 2012 | N/A

Posted on 07/07/2012 4:51:17 AM PDT by raulgomez05

Aging rocker and reality TV personality Ted Nugent is emerging, even ahead of Donald Trump, as Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney’s most embarrassing public supporter.

Nugent is at it again, reacting to the Supreme Court’s ruling upholding the Affordable Care Act by writing in the Rev. Sun Myung Moon’s Washington Times that America would have been better off had the South won the Civil War.

A full Nugent rant, which might be subtitled “Robe Rage”:

“The bottom line is that Chief Justice Roberts’ traitor vote will ensure more monumental spending and wasted taxes and put almost 15 percent of the nation’s gross domestic product under one of the world’s most bureaucratic, ineffective, incompetent and grossly expensive systems ever devised by man: our out-of-control federal government.

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Does Romney agree?
1 posted on 07/07/2012 4:51:22 AM PDT by raulgomez05
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To: raulgomez05

“Does Romney agree?”
Let him take a close look at his internal polls,he’ll get back with an answer later.


2 posted on 07/07/2012 4:56:43 AM PDT by Farmer Dean (stop worrying about what they want to do to you,start thinking about what you want to do to them)
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To: raulgomez05

What the hell does Nugent’s killing an illegal bear in Alaska have to do with the position he took when he stated, “it may have been better had the South won the civil war”. Then again, what does that statement have to do with anything?


3 posted on 07/07/2012 4:59:12 AM PDT by DaveA37
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To: raulgomez05

I tend to agree with Nugent. And, at this point, a remake would be in order.The entire center section of this country ought to secede.


4 posted on 07/07/2012 5:02:11 AM PDT by Quickgun (Second Amendment. The only one you can put your hands on.)
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To: raulgomez05
Which civil war? The last one? Or the next one?
5 posted on 07/07/2012 5:08:45 AM PDT by MrChips (MrChips)
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To: raulgomez05
I know we're all a little edgy because our freedom is being sucked away from us by the current administration but, to say that it would have been better if the south had won the civil war is nuts.

I concede the south had many great traditions ruined by the civil war but, the institution of slavery was an indefensible cruelty. The history of southern racism following the civil war is also a great shame that we'd all like to forget about.

Who looks back with more shame and regret: The Nazi's or the southern racists? I pretty much think it's a tie. Still, those civil rights issues have been resolved long ago and those days, though regretful, are done.

In conclusion, let's not get crazy about who was in the moral ‘right’ over the civil war. Facts is facts.

6 posted on 07/07/2012 5:08:45 AM PDT by Mustangman (The GOP)
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To: raulgomez05
"Does Romney agree?"

The question is do you agree with the misquote "Nugent: ‘Best’ if South had won Civil War" that you posted?

The actual Nugent quote, found later in the article was:

“Because our legislative, judicial and executive branches of government hold the 10th Amendment in contempt, I’m beginning to wonder if it would have been best had the South won the Civil War.”
A conservative or any honest person can not fail to see the difference. Blind acceptance of liberal distortions and Sol Alinsky propaganda tactics have no place on FR.
7 posted on 07/07/2012 5:11:36 AM PDT by drpix
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To: Quickgun

America was prosperous and vital before the federal government existed, and it will be again after it is gone.


8 posted on 07/07/2012 5:12:33 AM PDT by Psalm 144 (Voodoo Republicans. Don't read their lips. Watch their hands.)
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To: Progov

I’m a transplanted Yankee and the past 26 years in the South have me thinking it WOULD (not may) be better today if they had won. Who cares about the bear?


9 posted on 07/07/2012 5:14:21 AM PDT by trebb ("If a man will not work, he should not eat" From 2 Thes 3)
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To: MrChips

Heh. No kidding. If it reaches that point, I hope for relatively peaceful dissolution such as occurred with the Soviet Union.


10 posted on 07/07/2012 5:15:04 AM PDT by Psalm 144 (Voodoo Republicans. Don't read their lips. Watch their hands.)
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To: MrChips

>>Which civil war? The last one? Or the next one?

The last one was a war of independence. The whole “brother against brother” meme was just public school indoctrination where a few isolated cases were elevated to the norm to rewrite history. The next one will be a true civil war where people fight their neighbors in every state in urban combat.


11 posted on 07/07/2012 5:16:45 AM PDT by Bryanw92 (Sic semper tyrannis)
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To: raulgomez05

Problem is, the left redefined the CW1 as about slavery in Joe Public’s mind, when that was the symptom, not the disease. So this won’t be received well. Wish he had phrased it differently, to make his real point ‘unheadlineable’.


12 posted on 07/07/2012 5:18:55 AM PDT by Lazamataz (People who resort to Godwin's Law are just like Hitler.)
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To: raulgomez05

Hank already wrote that song, Ted...so don’t get too carried away with the idea.


13 posted on 07/07/2012 5:18:55 AM PDT by kevcol
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To: Mustangman
The civil war wasn't about slavery it was about states rights and peoples constitutional right to property.

Specifically, the federal government wanted to take something of great worth from people without compensation, even freaking Kelo vs New London didn't go that far.

Many studies have concluded that slavery would have petered out on it's own even without the civil war.

Our system of government as originally intended died when the South lost, and we are reaping what was sown with the loss to this day.

14 posted on 07/07/2012 5:19:47 AM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama lied .. the economy died.)
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To: raulgomez05

Considering Nuge is originally from Michigan, an interesting statement.

A South win would have been better for our Constitution...limited form of government

Also, the so-called Anti-Slavery people were against the spread of slavery because they did not want blacks in the new territories and states....they used “anti-slavery” to cover their own racism. They were no saints. They treated blacks just as bad as Southern plantation owners.


15 posted on 07/07/2012 5:20:10 AM PDT by SeminoleCounty (Romney has foreign assets.....Obama has foreign birth certifcates)
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To: Mustangman
Your myopic view of history shows. The North had slaveowners and it was the shipping interests of the North that imported the slaves. Several slave states were not in the South. New York's killing of blacks during the Civil War is so easily forgotten by the biased. Post Civil War found the Klan in higher number in the Northern States than in the South up until the 1930’s, Indiana with the highest numbers. These are just a few examples, it'd take the entire bandwidth to enumerate all of them. Northern racism still exists because many of the Northerners have not learned to live with the blacks as have Southerners.
16 posted on 07/07/2012 5:25:08 AM PDT by vetvetdoug
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To: TexasFreeper2009

So, what you are saying is that if the south won, slavery would have been abolished?

Sell that somewhere else.


17 posted on 07/07/2012 5:28:41 AM PDT by Vermont Lt (I just hate our government. All of them. Republican and Democrat.)
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To: TexasFreeper2009
The civil war wasn't about slavery it was about states rights and peoples constitutional right to property.

The "state rights" the south was fighting for was the right to own slaves, and the "property" was slaves. I doubt you would have looked at it this way if you were one of those slaves.

Specifically, the federal government wanted to take something of great worth from people without compensation, even freaking Kelo vs New London didn't go that far.

Something? Since when are human beings "things"?

Many studies have concluded that slavery would have petered out on it's own even without the civil war.

Well, the south sure fought a hard fight for something that was going away anyway.

18 posted on 07/07/2012 5:29:19 AM PDT by TwelveOfTwenty (With choices like Palin, Cain, and Bachmann, what could go wrong? Now we know.)
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To: Quickgun

I’m thinking that, given a chance to vote in a fair election, America might be only 20 states - ME, VT, NH, MA, CT, RI, NY, NJ, PA, DE, MD, IL, CA, OR, WA, HI, NM, WI, MI, and IA. Losers move out to preferred states.

Mutual defense pact and mutual trade (no teriffs) would keep both sides safe. Otherwise, go your own way.

Oh, and slavery is NOT an isue, so let’s not fight the Civil War again on this thread.

IF SECESSION NOT BE, THEN REVOLUTION MUST.


19 posted on 07/07/2012 5:31:09 AM PDT by NTHockey (Rules of engagement #1: Take no prisoners)
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To: vetvetdoug

Importation of slaves ended before the civil war. The slave population was big enough to keep itself going.

The agricultural south could not keep up with the industrial north. That would not have changed.

Slavery as an institution would have been the economical thing for he south to do.

It would have lead to another war when half of the slaves started running north.

And when I think about the stereotypical southern politician, I think y’all would be in the same boat a us.


20 posted on 07/07/2012 5:33:37 AM PDT by Vermont Lt (I just hate our government. All of them. Republican and Democrat.)
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