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To: Idabilly
My only disagreement at this point is that I don't want to be the secessionist, because I am the one obeying and want my leaders to obey the constitution. They are the secessionists. I want to be more of a restorationist.
8 posted on 06/28/2012 8:35:03 PM PDT by Vince Ferrer
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To: Vince Ferrer
because I am the one obeying and want my leaders to obey the constitution. They are the secessionists

The Constitution has been on life support shortly after it was enacted. Today it was pronounced dead. Our founders would have seceded long ago. They fought one hell of a war for less.

"We must have patience and longer endurance then with our brethren while under delusion; give them time for reflection and experience of consequences; keep ourselves in a situation to profit by the chapter of accidents; and separate from our companions only when the sole alternatives left, are the dissolution of our Union with them, or submission to a government without limitation of powers. Between these two evils, when we must make a choice, there can be no hesitation." Thomas Jefferson

"When a government is founded upon the voluntary consent, and agreement of a people uniting themselves together for their common benefit, the people, or nation, collectively taken, is free, although the administration of the government should happen to be oppressive, and to a certain degree, even tyrannical; since it is in the power of the people to alter, or abolish it, whenever they shall think proper; and to institute such new government as may seem most likely to effect their safety and happiness. But if the government be founded in fear, constraint, or force, although the administration should happen to be mild, the people, being deprived of the sovereignty, are reduced to a state of civil slavery. Should the administration, in this case, become tyrannical, they are without redress. Submission, punishment, or a successful revolt, are the only alternatives. http://www.constitution.org/tb/t1b.htm

15 posted on 06/28/2012 8:54:42 PM PDT by Idabilly (Tailpipes poppin, radios rockin, Country Boy Can Survive.)
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