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To: PieterCasparzen

So many Black youth perps seem to be unusually adept at the methodology needed to quickly and effectively subdue an opponent. From where are they learning these tactics and skills? Are they “instinctive”? Or is there (aside from the military) some sort of underground school where offensive and lethal hand to hand combat skills are being taught to Black youth?


34 posted on 04/22/2012 2:05:32 AM PDT by 4Runner
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I’m not sure you have to be a black youth to be unusually adept at subduing an opponent. You just have to be young man in your prime, with athletic skills. Treyvon M. was about 6 foot 3 inches tall, weighted 170-180 pounds, about 20 pounds less than George Z. I would describe George M. as short man with a slender build, certainly much lighter than the mug shot photo from 5 years earlier. I have no doubt that Treyvon M. was eating his lunch, George had a broken nose, bloody head wounds from hitting the concrete walkway. During the scuffle on the ground this pistol was probably felt by Treyvon M. in George’s clothing. Once that was discovered, both were going for the pistol, George naturally felt he was in mortal danger, so he fired in self-defense. We don’t know if the pistol was out in plain view when he fired or if it was still in his jacket and fired thru the clothing. Trayvon M. could have been hit in a non-lethal area, but sadly that night this bullet or bullets? were deadly


37 posted on 04/22/2012 4:08:33 AM PDT by Colorado Cowgirl (God bless America!)
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To: 4Runner
So many Black youth perps seem to be unusually adept at the methodology needed to quickly and effectively subdue an opponent.

It's easy to subdue an opponent who has not anticipated an attack and has no plan to execute in their own self-defense.

The unwitting lady walking in the mall parking lot is the classic case of an unwitting opponent.

As those acquainted with self-defense know, one needs to be ready and willing to counterattack with extreme prejudice (i.e., elan) in addition to being able to do so.

Mr. Zimmerman did have to foresight to be armed, however this situation brings out the importance of what's needed beyond the actual arming, which can place one in difficult circumstances. If one is armed and a personal-safety situation develops, one winds up facing the decision to either avoid confrontation or take charge of the situation and effectively hold the attacker at bay. Holding at bay requires one to be ready and willing to shoot. Once one is rushed, one is in a life-and-death struggle for the weapon.
64 posted on 04/22/2012 1:21:45 PM PDT by PieterCasparzen (We have to fix things ourselves.)
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