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To: AD from SpringBay
If there is no long form bc, where did the short form (the document the White-House released) come from? Isn’t the short form a more brief version of the long form?

Yup. Sure is. This obvious fact seems lost on birthers, though.

98 posted on 01/26/2011 10:26:12 AM PST by curiosity
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To: curiosity

In most states the short form BC is an abreviated version of the long form BC, but in Hawaii it may or may not be an abreviated version of a long form birth certificate. Those born in foreign countries could obtain a short form Hawaiian Birth certificate. Hawaii is different in this regard to other states. The Hawaiian statutes have been posted in this forum and others numerous times and may even be available currently on their own website. While a birth was announced in the Hawaiian newspaper, any grandparent or relative could have called the newspaper and requested this announcement just like countless other grandparents did when their grandchildren were born out of state, so others in their town would know they had become grandparents. This was quite popular to do in the 1950’s and 1960’s and most newspapers would do it for free. Also there are at least two different short form birth certificates that have been posted, one on Obama’s website and the other on the daily KOS, and both have been found by forensic experts to be forged documents. There is just too much conflicting information out there for me to be able to know for certain just where he was born.

That said, I grew up in the 1960’s and I was taught about the “natural born citizen clause” at three different schools I attended. I was taught that in order two be a “natural born citizen” you had to be born in the United States and have two parents that were citizens at the time of your birth. Since Obama claims his father was born in Kenya and was a British subject, Obama would not be a “natural born citizen”. Furthermore under the law in existence when Obama was born his mother could not have conferred U.S. citizenship on her son if he was born outside of the United states as Obaman’s Kenyan grandmother has attested.


125 posted on 01/26/2011 1:09:31 PM PST by Flamenco Lady
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