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WE'RE ALL BIRTHERS NOW: The Long-Form Obama Birth Certificate DOES NOT EXIST
Reaganite Republican ^ | January 26, 2011 | Reaganite Republican

Posted on 01/26/2011 5:57:29 AM PST by Reaganite Republican

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To: butterdezillion
The HDOH claims they can’t give any information about WHAT birth index their index data for Obama is from. Not even whether it was from the Delayed Birth Certificate, Certificate of Hawaiian Birth, or pending index.

It can't be any of the latter because we know his birth was registered when he was 4 days old. Certificates of Hawaiian Birth were only issued to people who hadn't had their births registered by age 1. Delayed Birth Certificaes were only issued to people whose births were registered 30 days or more after the fact. And finally, there is no such thing as a "pending" index.

That leaves only one possibility...Obama must have a standard BC and the index entry is for a standard BC.

101 posted on 01/26/2011 10:34:00 AM PST by curiosity
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To: Helotes
His name is on the graduation program at Columbia. The university verified that he did, in fact, obtain a degree there. There is an opinion piece by him in the student newspaper from the time he was attending. Occidental also verified his dates of attendance. Classmates from both schools have confirmed they knew him as students.

There's no way he would have been allowed to take the bar exam or teach law school classes without proving he had a law degree.

You're really searching for a coverup where none exists.

102 posted on 01/26/2011 10:37:05 AM PST by curiosity
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To: curiosity

That is a good possibility.


103 posted on 01/26/2011 10:41:45 AM PST by Dante3
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To: curiosity

Let me understand your position ... you say they are both telling the truth, so that means there was an original birth certificate on file at HI State Dept of Health in late July 2009, but it’s not there in early January, 2011?

Is the HI State Dept of Health that sloppy? Vital records, appropriately named, are critical and a major responsibility of the state agencies nationwide that are entrusted with them. How could they possibly have lost a 50 year old record in 1.5 years’ time? That is incredible incompetence, and heads should roll.


104 posted on 01/26/2011 10:56:04 AM PST by EDINVA
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To: curiosity

Let me understand your position ... you say they are both telling the truth, so that means there was an original birth certificate on file at HI State Dept of Health in late July 2009, but it’s not there in early January, 2011?

Is the HI State Dept of Health that sloppy? Vital records, appropriately named, are critical and a major responsibility of the state agencies nationwide that are entrusted with them. How could they possibly have lost a 50 year old record in 1.5 years’ time? That is incredible incompetence, and heads should roll.


105 posted on 01/26/2011 10:56:10 AM PST by EDINVA
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To: butterdezillion
Butter.....have you read this?

Questions for Speaker Boehner

Do you know that the Immigration Reform and Control Act of 1986 requires that:

All employees, citizens and noncitizens, hired after November 6, 1986 and working in the United States must complete a Form I-9, Employment Eligibility Verification.

Is there any exception made in that law for any occupation, including President?

Is Obama an employee, hired after November 6, 1986 and working in the United States?

Do you know whether or not Obama is in compliance with current Immigration law? Do you know whether or not Obama has completed a Form I-9, Employment Eligibility Verification, and if so, what documents he used as proof of his employment eligibility?

Do you realize that the Form I-9 is very specific about what documents are acceptable?

106 posted on 01/26/2011 10:56:22 AM PST by Electric Graffiti (I'm armed and Amish.)
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To: Dryman

“FREE THE LONG FORM!”

You may have to put that in Swahili too....;)


107 posted on 01/26/2011 10:57:50 AM PST by Electric Graffiti (I'm armed and Amish.)
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To: EDINVA
Let me understand your position ... you say they are both telling the truth, so that means there was an original birth certificate on file at HI State Dept of Health in late July 2009, but it’s not there in early January, 2011?

It was there then, and it's there now. What makes you think it isn't?

108 posted on 01/26/2011 11:03:55 AM PST by curiosity
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To: curiosity

Granny filed a birth record for Barry in Hawaii with no documentation because her wayward daughter was off in Kenya squeezing the little demon seed out. Granny was hoping Stanely-ann would return to Hawaii with further legal documentation to establish Barry as a US citizen. She never did. Probably never cared.

That’s why there was index data for Obama from the HDOH. A note in Granny Toot’s hand-writing saying, “Her daughter gave birth to a son, Barack Hussein Obama II. Further documents to come. Stop.”

If Stanely Ann gave birth in a hospital in the states, Granny Toots would have been spared the trouble. Little Barry would legally be on file as a citizen in some state.

This is the only thing Abercrombie found. What fried Abercrombie’s 3 remaining braincells is the discovery of an amendment that included his OWN House Resolution 593 declaring “Barack Obama Born in Hawaii.” -— The Sum total of Obama’s vital records.

Stanely Ann, if she gave birth in a hospital overseas, never procured any legal documentation for Barry. She didn’t care....She hated Sr. and hated the fact that Barry reminded her of him.

From everything I’ve read about S. Ann she was a real abusive pyschopathic bitch. Which is why she dumped Barry on her parents while she trolloped around.

Which brings us full circle.....He’s our first illegal alien ‘President’

Curosity killed the cat by boning it to death.


109 posted on 01/26/2011 11:06:31 AM PST by Electric Graffiti (I'm armed and Amish.)
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To: curiosity

We don’t know anything.

The claim that the HDOH had any documents as of Aug 8, 1961 is from an online image that the HDOH has already indirectly confirmed in 2 different ways as a forgery.

When Leo Donofrio made a request for documents they had used to pub Aug 8, 1961 on the COLB (assuming it to be genuine) he received conflicting responses, with the latest response unclear on whether it was a Glomarized response. I asked the OIP to clarify what kind of language would make up a Glomarized response and they refused to answer. As I read it, it looks like a Glomarized response.

But even if it wasn’t a Glomarized response and they actually had records in their office before Aug 9, 1961, that still doesn’t say WHAT records they had then.

And if the HDOH has everything they seem to be saying they have, then why is Abercrombie having so many troubles coming up with anything? A written note in the archives? Why would there be a written note in the archives? Why would there NOT be a birth certificate in the HDOH office - if everything the HDOH and Fukino have said thus far are taken at face value?


110 posted on 01/26/2011 11:13:39 AM PST by butterdezillion
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To: curiosity

Because Abercrombie said there is a recording of Obama’s birth, it’s actually written down, it’s in the archives...

Why would anything be in the archives? The place it’s supposed to be, if it exists, is in the HDOH office. Why didn’t Abercrombie say it was in the HDOH office right where Fukino had looked when she saw it?


111 posted on 01/26/2011 11:17:00 AM PST by butterdezillion
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To: TheCipher

Thanks for the link. If anyone has anything from Harvard or Columbia, please share with us.


112 posted on 01/26/2011 11:29:09 AM PST by DrDude
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To: butterdezillion
Because Abercrombie said there is a recording of Obama’s birth, it’s actually written down, it’s in the archives...

What makes you think he's not referring to an original birth certificate? A BC is a record, and it contains information that is written down.

Why would anything be in the archives?

Because the word "archives," in the vernacular, is a generic term referring to a place where old documents, such as a BC from 1961, are stored.

113 posted on 01/26/2011 11:33:58 AM PST by curiosity
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To: butterdezillion
There is already a transaction log for Obama’s passport records that we know has been illegally accessed at least 3 times - which was allowable because somebody high up in John Brennan’s company specifically disabled the security protocols just during the times that those 3 breaches happened. John Brennan was immediately appointed as National Security Chief after the election. The investigation of those breaches, under the watchful eye of Joe Biden (who Obama offered a VP job) has been heavily redacted and Condi Rice has said there are NOT assurances that the records are accurate.

And didn't a witness lose his life over it?

Wow, it looks like Obama DID create jobs! Great jobs! For everyone who helped him cover up his secrets.

114 posted on 01/26/2011 11:41:41 AM PST by Yaelle
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To: curiosity

Abercrombie purportedly told a (long time) friend that there’s no there there. Thereafter, the AG announced that because of privacy laws, the actual birth certificate could not be released. There are “notes” in the “archives.”

We can question ‘friends’ and online postings, but that can be said also of the COLB posted by the Obama campaign.

Producing a birth certificate is no big deal, and not too much to ask of any individual who wishes to serve as President of the United States, Commander in Chief of its Armed Forces, occupant of the Oval Office and White House, and primary passenger on Air Force One and Marine One. That position, its perks and security, costs the U.S. taxpayers in the billions of dollars and authorizes the holder to send our sons and daughters into harm’s way. We have a right to know that the office holder is eligible.

I, for one don’t even believe the birth certificate alone establishes eligibility. However, it is not “birthers” who are dragging this whole issue out, it’s the individual who has barred everyone, including long time family friend Abercrombie, from releasing his birth certificate and all records of his past history.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hvrb7YqdvxE

http://news.yahoo.com/s/dailycaller/20110125/pl_dailycaller/friendsayshawaiigovneilabercrombietoldhimthereisnoobamabirthcertificate_1

http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2011/01/friend_says_abercrombie_to_him.html


115 posted on 01/26/2011 11:42:54 AM PST by EDINVA
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To: Conan the Conservative
Before we get over excited, this guy is just an election official, not an official from the Office of Records.

The Governor of Hawaii also says it doesn't exist.

The fact that he has sworn that someone told him something is not proof.

The fact that 0bama posted a phony BC is not proof that he is a natural born citizen.
116 posted on 01/26/2011 11:45:06 AM PST by Brown Deer (Pray for 0bama. Psalm 109:8)
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To: TheCipher

The poems mentioned that Obama had published in the Oxy journal include the one about “Pops,” with its gay sexual references.

What we would like to know, Occidental, is whether or not our President applied to your school as an American!


117 posted on 01/26/2011 11:49:17 AM PST by Yaelle
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To: EDINVA; curiosity
However, it is not “birthers” who are dragging this whole issue out, it’s the individual who has barred everyone, including long time family friend Abercrombie, from releasing his birth certificate and all records of his past history.

Yes. It is now obvious that A) there is no Hawaiian long form original BC and B) Obama knew this all along, and has been "playing" the American people.

He has not proven his eligibility, and Nancy Pelosi and others have had to go on the line and perjure themselves for him.

If you have not been proven eligible for the highest office of the land, you are INELIGIBLE.

118 posted on 01/26/2011 11:52:46 AM PST by Yaelle
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To: Brown Deer

“The Governor of Hawaii also says it doesn’t exist.”

Did you hear the Governor himself say that? I heard him say that he couldn’t find it, not that it didn’t exist. I don’t put much faith in 3rd party reports about what someone says.


119 posted on 01/26/2011 12:10:03 PM PST by Conan the Conservative (Crush the liberals, see them driven before you, and hear the lamentations of the hippies.)
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To: Conan the Conservative

I put a lot more faith in reputable 3rd party reports coming from close friends, than in anything that comes from zero.


120 posted on 01/26/2011 12:22:23 PM PST by Brown Deer (Pray for 0bama. Psalm 109:8)
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