You cannot debate with a hardcore Leftist. No matter what you say, you are the enemy. You are a member of the bourgeoisie. You are a ruling class capitalist bent on subjugating the masses. They are, for the most part, extremely closed minded and stubborn. Think “cult” when you engage them. The worst of the worst are the Red Diaper Babies. Those are the ones born into the “movement”. They are brainwashed and programmed from day one. They are nearly without the ability to resist what they are brought up in and are usually soul-less, psyche damaged zombies by the age of majority. That Horowitz made it out in one piece is nothing short of a miracle.
And you're proving that with each and every post on this thread. BTW, just an observation, but I've noticed that you always capitalize, leftist, marxist, socialist. Just an observation.....