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To: Drennan Whyte
If the citizens of the states considered allegiance to their state trumping that of the federal gvt, as in the case of Lee, then if they vote to be admitted, then vote to leave, it is under the assumption that they have read the Constitution and agree to its rules. If the states back then weren't looked as as individual entities, then why was the expression, 'The United States are' instead of 'The United States is'? Big distinction, according to Shelby Foote and other historians.

Or were the states that came in later duped in some way?

204 posted on 12/27/2010 5:29:22 PM PST by Othniel (There is no god named Allah, and Mohammed is its false prophet.)
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To: Othniel
...then if they vote to be admitted, then vote to leave...

The fact that the people of a territory may have voted to be admitted is Constitutionally irrelevant. Colorado and Nebraska are only two examples of territories that petitioned for statehood but had to wait, in Colorado's case for years. The act that creates a state is a vote in both houses of Congress. If your point is that leaving should be through the same method as joining then wouldn't such a vote have been needed by at least 5 of the original seven Confederate states. Or all of them?

...it is under the assumption that they have read the Constitution and agree to its rules...

The Constitution is silent on how or whether a state may secede.

If the states back then weren't looked as as individual entities, then why was the expression, 'The United States are' instead of 'The United States is'? Big distinction, according to Shelby Foote and other historians.

States are still separate political entities. But that doesn't mean that they can do whatever they want. Especially when their actions may affect the other states.

268 posted on 12/28/2010 4:27:48 AM PST by Drennan Whyte
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