Posted on 10/15/2010 10:46:04 PM PDT by citizenredstater9271
Fans of 42% effective government schools come after homeschools for only being 99% effective.
Here's how to keep up to date with Homeschooler Michelle's concerns:
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It’s probably a taxpayer gouging federal trough eating “teacher” or married to one.
lol... stop projecting, you pompous @ss liberal.
How well does napscoordinator do on uptoolate's Conservative Rating test? That should be the only qualification to posting on FreeRepublic. If the napscoordinator does well on uptoolate's Conservative Rating test, then napscoordinator should be allowed to continue to post on FreeRepublic. If napscoordinator fails uptoolate's Conservative Rating test, or is below uptoolate's acceptable level then napscoordinator should not be allowed to post on FreeRepublic. Why is that so difficult to understand.
Dey nevr hav any these nationals tests yU be a talkin 'bout.
One is a professTionall n SoCal...and other is getting a B.A. in Legal Studies..with a 3.8 GPA.
I guess they R stoopid..and dar momma and daddy R 2.
Wow...you just keep stepping in it, don't you!! LOL!!
Who you going to insult next?
/S /spelling
You call thinking that one’s children don’t belong to the State is a “filthy attitude,” order another commenter not to ping friends, and criticize yet another commenter for being unable to take criticism? Seems to me you’ve been caught out on some very plain areas of ignorance and wrongheaded thinking, and you’re responding with a spray of verbal bullets instead of admitting your several errors, learning something, growing up a bit, and moving on.
Don’t be the last to know you screwed up.
As a veteran of HS'ing...from K thru 12...I can tell you it was one of the best things we ever did...for our family.
Peace, Love, and Bobby Sherman!!!
Throw a rock over a fence and the dog that yelps is the one that got hit.
When I first heard that one, I wasn’t sure exactly what it meant, but FReepers have (sadly) provided plenty of examples of that truth.
Same here. We’ve put in our time and have three very ambitious kids.
One’s off to grad school, and the others are still in their respective universities, doing well, as usual.
How well do Homeschoolers do on those nationalized tests? That should be the only qualification to homeschooling. If the students do well on the national standardized testing then they should be allowed to continue homeschooling. If they fail them or are below level than they should not be allowed to homeschool. Why is that so difficult to understand. A very easy way to conclude the whole homeschool debate.
Why is that so difficult to understand?
Perhaps because we have a much higher criteria than getting math scores. Perhaps we homeschool for reasons of family, home, heritage, faith, and conscience, as much or more than for academic test scores.
"Allowed" or "not allowed" by who, please?
We home school by calling of God, not by permission of man; the state, or anyone else, thank you.
We went through our episode of county attendance officers making threats and telling us where our children were supposed to be enrolled.
That was 28 years ago, and we continue . . . finishing up the two youngest of our seven children.
We never subjected our children to "standardized" testing, but we have college graduates from our home already.
More importantly, we have moral, respectful, obedient, devoted, disciplined, and reverent children who are in the Lord's service. They think right about life and eternity.
you spoiled brat
napscoordinator, you should be ashamed of yourself for being so hateful.
Are you still pinging people after being specifically told not to do so? Naughty, naughty. ;)
I never was one to knuckle under at the infantile demands of others.
My post - at 21 - was far from charitable. My apologies. You may want to examine yours and ask yourself if you showed any real charity with what you wrote. I hope to see you post more on education and with a more open mind.
Some states require homeschoolers to take the statewide standardized testing, but as far as I know, not even public schools administer nationalized tests to their students. There is the PSAT/SAT and the ACT, but these are college entry exams. The ITBS is the Iowa state test. The TAKS is the Texas state test. The CAT is the California state test. I could go on, but I think I have made my point: Each state’s Board of Education sets their own standardized testing.
I’m in Texas where homeschools are considered private schools. Anyone can homeschool. There is no governing body. Not only that, homeschoolers do not have to inform their intent to homeschool the local ISD or to the state BOE. The ONLY reason a homeschooler should inform the local ISD is to formally withdraw a child from public school. That said, the state of Texas did set a minimum core curriculum for all homeschools to remain legal, which includes the teaching of good citizenship, math, reading, spelling, and grammar. Other states have their own laws governing what’s legal regarding homeschoolers, some of which are extremely regulated. Texas happens to be one of the most, if not the most, unregulated states regarding homeschooling. (FWIW, most homeschoolers (and all of those who I know personally) include far more than just the minimum subjects required to be legal homeschoolers.)
Tests administered for diagnostic purposes are a good idea in any educational scenario. It informs the teacher of placement needs and possible gaps in learning. These are not standardized tests. They are educational tools.
Schools submit to standardized testing to get money from the state. Money is the sole purpose of standardized testing. (Homeschoolers respond, “Thanks, but no thanks.”) With government money comes strings. There are always strings. In the case of education, the string attached is a say in the curriculum. Teachers no longer have the liberty to cater to the needs of the learner. Teachers use what the state tells them to use in order to teach everyone the same way at the same time. The result is ‘cookie cutter’ education, which fits only the norm and leaves behind the gifted as well as the struggling learners. Standardized testing assumes that all students taking the test have had the same educational opportunities and the same scope and sequence, and should therefore score within a specific percentile to be considered ‘passing’ or ‘acceptable.’ The more students who pass, the more money their school gets from the state.
NY is one of the most regulated states in the country as far as homeschooling goes, and yet I’ve never heard what their ranking in amongst homeschoolers as far as results.
Come to think of it, I don’t know that anyone has ever done a study of that kind.
Regardless, the idea that the state needs to regulate homeschooling is ludicrous. The vast majority of homeschoolers are homeschooling for the very reason of giving their children a quality education. There’s simply no need to regulate people who are that motivated without regulation.
The parents will see to it that their children receive all the education they need.
Will there be some failures? Of course, just like in EVERYTHING in life. But the few failures that exist, which pale in comparison to the failure of the public education system, are still not enough to justify the draconian intrusion of the state into people’s private lives.
What constitutes an education is a wholly subjective opinion.
What role could government possibly play?
How can some bureaucrat know better?
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