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To: usmcobra
source for the Indonesian schools laws was a Freeper that lived there for quite some time.

In other words, all you've got is the unverifiable word of some anonymous guy on the internet. Typical.

511 posted on 09/27/2010 4:42:28 PM PDT by curiosity
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To: curiosity

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And all you’ve got is the unmitigated rage and hatred rattling around in the empty skull of a “Concern Troll” that posts as “Curiosity.”
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515 posted on 09/27/2010 4:47:22 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Obamacare is America's kristallnacht !!)
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To: curiosity; expatguy
In other words, all you've got is the unverifiable word of some anonymous guy on the internet. Typical.

The last time you asked me to prove anything to you it cost you $100.

Freeper Expatguy (who I am pinging to your vicious slur against him) is our source in Indonesia and he is hardly anonymous.

Perhaps you would like to recant your hasty words.

519 posted on 09/27/2010 5:01:48 PM PDT by usmcobra (.Islam: providing Live Targets for United States Marines since 1786!)
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To: curiosity
source for the Indonesian schools laws was a Freeper that lived there for quite some time.

In other words, all you've got is the unverifiable word of some anonymous guy on the internet. Typical.

Typical is your response as actual copies of the Indonesian laws at that time have been submitted in courts of law. This is none other than your trying to obfuscate the issue with your delirium brought on by an over abundance of koolaide.

582 posted on 09/28/2010 11:59:55 AM PDT by patlin (Ignorance is Bliss for those who choose to wear rose colored glasses)
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To: curiosity; usmcobra
Hmmm, what does the court docs say?

Soetoro/Obama was registered in a public school as an Indonesian citizen by the name of Barry Soetoro and his father was listed as Lolo Soetoro, M.A. Indonesia did not allow foreign students to attend their public schools in the late 1960’s or 1970’s, and any time a child was registered for a public school, the child’s name and citizenship status were verified through the Indonesian Government. See Constitution of Republic of Indonesia (Undang-Undang Dasar Republik Indonesia 1945), Chapter 13, Law No. 62 of 1958 (all citizens of Indonesia have a right to education). The Indonesian school record, indicates that Soetoro/Obama’s name is “Barry Soetoro;” his nationality is “Indonesia” and his father “Lolo Soetoro, M.A. There was no way for Soetoro/Obama to have attended school in Jakarta, Indonesia legally unless he was an Indonesian citizen, as Indonesia was under tight rule and was a Police State. See Constitution of Republic of Indonesia (Undang-Undang Dasar Republik Indonesia 1945), Law No. 62 of 1958. These facts indicate that Obama/Soetoro is an Indonesian citizen, and therefore he is not eligible to be President of the United States.

Under Indonesian law, when a male acknowledges a child as his son, it deems the son, in this case Soetoro/Obama, an Indonesian State citizen. See Constitution of Republic of Indonesia, Law No. 62 of 1958 concerning Immigration Affairs and Indonesian Civil Code (Kitab Undang-undang Hukum Perdata) (KUHPer) (Burgerlijk Wetboek voor Indonesie).

Furthermore, under the Indonesian adoption law, once an Indonesian citizen adopts a child, the adoption severs the child’s relationship to the birth parents, and the adopted child is given the same status as a natural child and the child takes the name of his step-father, in this case, Soetoro. See Indonesian Constitution, Article 2.

The Indonesian citizenship law was designed to prevent apatride (stateless) or bipatride (dual) citizenship. Indonesian regulations recognized neither apatride nor bipatride (stateless or dual) citizenship. Since Indonesia did not allow dual citizenship; neither did the United States (since the United States only permitted dual citizenship when ‘both’ countries agree); and since Obama/Soetoro was a “natural” citizen of Indonesia, the United States would not step in or interfere with the laws of Indonesia. Hague Convention of 1930.

Pretty cut & dried to me. But then again, I never drank the Obama or the GOP koolaide for that matter.

583 posted on 09/28/2010 12:17:49 PM PDT by patlin (Ignorance is Bliss for those who choose to wear rose colored glasses)
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To: curiosity; usmcobra
“Constitution of Indonesia of 1945 first: (asnic.utexas.edu) Chapter XIII. Education Article 31″

“1. Every citizen has the right to education.

” “2. The government shall establish and conduct a national educational system which shall be regulated by law.”

Notice, it says every citizen. It does not say every child. Now Obama's Indonesian school record say what?,/p>

ChildÂ’s name is Barry Soetoro

Citizenship status: Indonesian; Father, Lolo Soetoro, M.A.

Asian Law Digests Indonesia Law Digest13.01; Martindale-Hubbell(R) Law Digest –

Asian Law Digests; 1 Indonesia Law Digest; Section 13 Family.

Asian Law Digests INDONESIA LAW DIGEST 9.02. Indonesian citizens are required to complete civil registration, implementation of which includes completing formalities for and obtaining family identity cards and recordation concerning every change which arises.

http://www.scribd.com/doc/24898751/Barry-Soetoro-Indonesia-School-Record3

And for further proof, the Soetoro-Dunham divorce docs clearly states that from the marriage, there are 2 children, one under the age of 18 & one over the age of 18 & still dependent on both parties for education expenses. This further eludes to a conclusion that Obama was using foreign aide for his college tuition.

http://www.scribd.com/doc/9940006/Soetoro-Divorce-1980-9-Pages-Merged

586 posted on 09/28/2010 12:53:41 PM PDT by patlin (Ignorance is Bliss for those who choose to wear rose colored glasses)
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