Your interpretation of this thread's premise is that Beck overstated the issue of slavery and you are quick to concede "We shall agree to disagree at this juncture." I'll reject that nicely, if you'll let me, but I'll reject nonetheless.
If the confederate constitution hadn't mentioned slavery, or if it had mentioned it once (or even twice!) then I would agree that it probably didn't figure prominently in their decision to split, and Beck was overstating. But they did - 17 times! You can niggle over the permutations and euphemisms if you want, but even so the count is way beyond what central-va claimed.
Next let's talk insults. I haven't scrutinized the thread with a fine-tooth comb but I do not recall anywhere anyone calling you an idiot (or any other names). Please feel free to correct me. I did call pokie's comment dunderheaded - which you apparently agree with or else you wouldn't have called him on it. Further, both central-va and pokie expressed blanket bigotry in all-encompassing statements (Can never trust a Yankee, even a goofy entertaining one - central-va)(Beck, like every other yankee, is a sick joke - pokie). No one uttered similar blanket statements towards anyone speaking from the confederate viewpoint (southron or otherwise). No one called you "idiot, hicks, hayseeds, hillbillies, or rednecks (or racist)".
Can we get past all that crap? The politically correct nonsense is counterproductive. We are where we are now. North or South, East Coast or West, our nation is in a mess. So, what CAN we agree on to get it pointed in the right direction?!
I haven't seen much in the way of PC here either. I don't think it's a problem. As for agreeing on things, it is my firm belief that we need to unseat the dhimmicrats and undo the damage they've done to our country. We can't accomplish that by tearing things apart. Therefore secession is the last option on my list. How about you?
So, that’s a no, rockrr? :-)
Sorry — I didn’t mean to put words in your mouth. I was trying to be vague in my scolding about the whole name-calling thing... How’s this?
Now, y’all Southern boys — play nice with them Northern folks. They ain’t used to that ugly, coarse language! (NOTE: the foregoing comment was meant to be facetious, and was NOT meant to belittle ANYONE from NORTH of the Mason-Dixon line, but WAS meant to gently remind those from the South that we need to deal with the immediate problems we can AGREE on right now — and we CAN find common ground!)
Now, as to your last comment — YES, secession is certainly the LAST option on the list of remedies. I would add, because principle dictates I MUST, that it IS and will remain ON my list — but it’s at the bottom. If the Constitution can be restored, Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness regained, freedom from the tyranny of Washington achieved through the means of the “system,” elections, judicial decisions, legislative action, wonderful. So far, that has NOT been the case. If it can be acheived by the States reasserting their Rights under the Ninth and Tenth Amendments, and enacting Nullification, so be it! That remains to be seen. However, if the Feds crack down of the States (like Arizona) who attempt to enforce laws the Federals will not, or worse, arrest State officials, or aid illegals to violate State laws under Federal protection, or even use military or federal law enforcement violence against the States or their citizens in a major way — to me, the point will have been reached where only one of two choices remain: (1) the active overthown of the Washington DC Federal Tyranny, or (2) secession FROM the Washington, DC tyranny....
To me, I don’t think we are as far away from some of these scenarios as Glenn Beck seems to believe...Wouldn’t you agree?