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To: central_va
The Civil War sped up the physical end of slavery by a few decades.

That's an easy and cowardly assertion-- you weren't a slave. Your argument is void on its face because you can prove nothing about how long slavery would or would not last. As pointed out elsewhere on this thread, slavery thrives in China, Africa, and North Korea.

The Southern states were denying blacks' constitutional rights within the borders of the United States. Surely you're not going to argue that black people should be denied their rights under the Constitution? Or will you assert that they shouldn't have been considered citizens in the first place?

The war crushed the South and its ability to wage war-- which is the purpose of war.

All of those things that you decry took place and were products of the South and Southern actions-- and they all took place in the South. The murder of Lincoln (by a Southerner) gave rise to segregation, the KKK, and reconstruction.

The South asked for and got its war (you conveniently neglect to mention that the war was underway before Lincoln set foot in the White House).

Your assertions that this would be a better country if we had allowed slavery to continue in some detached-but-righteous country ranks among the most offensive things I've ever read on FR or anywhere else for that matter.

I frankly think you're mentally ill.

You need to get out of the business of defending slavery and take your racism elsewhere. You smell like a DU troll.

112 posted on 06/25/2010 7:41:44 PM PDT by IncPen (How can a man who won't produce his own documentation lecture the rest of us on immigration?)
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To: IncPen; central_va

In any case, if you watched Beck’s program about the black founding fathers you know that this thread is a bit dishonest from the beginning. It was a pretty good program, it was mostly about the black founding fathers and that has all got lost in this thread. His point is that his dreaded “progressives” which means Democrats have erased black participation in the founding of the country.

It was worth watching. If you didn’t see it, you might catch it later tonight.


114 posted on 06/25/2010 7:48:07 PM PDT by marron
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To: IncPen
I frankly think you're mentally ill.

600,000 died to force feed emancipation on blacks who were not ready to live on their own(Through no fault of their own) with racist whites who weren't ready to accept them. It really could have been done peacefully.

I am not now, nor ever have been in favor of bringing about in any way the social or political equality of the white and black races. I am not now nor ever have been in favor of making voters or jurors of Negroes, nor of qualifying them to hold office, nor of intermarriages with white people. There is a physical difference between the white and the black races which will forever forbid the two races living together on social or political equality. There must be a position of superior and inferior, and I am in favor of assigning the superior position to the white man.


    -- Lincoln in his speech to Charleston, Illinois, 1858

115 posted on 06/25/2010 7:48:16 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed, and I do not give a damn.)
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To: IncPen
The Southern states were denying blacks' constitutional rights within the borders of the United States.

Southern states weren't the only states denying blacks their constitutional rights within the borders of the United States.

119 posted on 06/25/2010 7:58:13 PM PDT by southernsunshine
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To: IncPen

CHIP A NAIL?


270 posted on 06/27/2010 8:59:45 PM PDT by Conservative9
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