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tonka_truck,

I believe you need to do a bit more research before you castigate the service of any indiviual, whether man or boy.

“that all three black confederates buried in St. Augustine were musicians who played the drums or blew a bugle.”

You obviously have no clue as to the purpose, nor the importance, of the drums and bugles within the regiments. Their job was even more important than those who carried the colors.

“They weren’t soldiers in any meaningful way unless you choose to twist the objective truth to fit the circumstance “

They were indeed soldiers with a very important job. Why would you denigrate their service by stating they weren’t meaningful soldiers? Just what objective truth is being twisted here?

Do you posses the ability to read another’s mind or heart, past or present? Do you know of the soldiers pride and sacrifice? Do you know how they felt wearing their uniform and doing their duty? Why is being a bugler or a drummer not enough for you? Is it because they didn’t carry a gun that you denigrate their service and sacrifice? Those were very important positions in BOTH militaries!


964 posted on 04/24/2010 8:58:32 PM PDT by southernsunshine
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To: southernsunshine; mac_truck; manc
Only if you understood what piles of crapola - Mack trucks - are! They are Garbage. Ain't that right, Garbage_truck.

Heck, mac's real life rig is a Yugo with CB Antennas

Poor soul got banned from Truck stops

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968 posted on 04/25/2010 4:02:53 AM PDT by Idabilly (Oh, southern star how I wish you would shine.)
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To: southernsunshine
I believe you need to do a bit more research before you castigate the service of any indiviual, whether man or boy.

You obviously have no clue as to the purpose, nor the importance, of the drums and bugles within the regiments. Their job was even more important than those who carried the colors.

They were indeed soldiers with a very important job. Why would you denigrate their service by stating they weren’t meaningful soldiers? Just what objective truth is being twisted here?

Yours is a typical 'lost causer' response when faced with an uncomfortable truth, which is to take offense at some perceived slight to dignity, honor, or family. The entire purpose of course is to lead the conversation AWAY from that uncomfortable truth to the extent possible.

How many people here knew that the three men being touted as 'proof' that the South had black confederate soldiers fighting for their cause were simply musicians (drummers, buglers,etc.) who weren't issued weapons? Or that one only served six months and was dismissed due to 'old age'? If you're simply relying on the confederate propoganda sites for your 'history' than you certainly wouldn't.

Simply put these are not jobs that men were recruited into, by eithe side in the Civil War. Southrons at that time did not consider adult blacks to be men, nor did they trust them with their own weapons, so it makes sense that they would have them serving in that capacity.

If I had to guess as to why those three black men went into the service of the Confederacy, I'd say it was probably for the same reason alot of poor whites did, an opportunity to own a coat and pair of shoes and the promise of being fed regularly. There were also plenty of blacks serving alongside their masters in the field.

So SSS if you really want to prove your worth around here, show me some evidence that the South ever fielded a black fighting force of any kind and we'll go from there.

Otherwise feel free to kiss my grits!

991 posted on 04/26/2010 8:13:43 AM PDT by mac_truck ( Aide toi et dieu t aidera)
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To: southernsunshine

Nice site.

http://www.usgennet.org/usa/mo/county/stlouis/blackcs.htm#Estimates%20of%20Black%20Confederate%20Serving%20the%20South

Very respectful to those brave black men who fought for their country, too.


1,073 posted on 04/26/2010 2:00:02 PM PDT by Salamander (Hold onto to all your fears 'cuz when I get outta here....vengeance is mine, mine, mine!)
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