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To: cowboyway
First of all, States Rights would have been cast in stone as with the right to secede thereby ensuring that politicians, such as disHonest Abe, FDR and Obama, would give considerable pause before treading on the rights of the people of the various states.

Would it? The Preamble to the Confederate Constitution differed from the U.S. Constitution in that it was established "in order to form a permanent federal government..." While president, Jefferson Davis took a number of actions to reduce the rights of states to run their own show. I can't imagine that suddenly disappearing, especially in the face of a beaten and hostile U.S. on their northern border.

Second, the South, decimated by The War, would not have been further decimated by that atrocity called Reconstruction.

True.

Third, you can't assume that the South, a mostly agrian nation, would have suffered through a depression.

I think you certainly can. A case can be made that the Great Depression hit the farmers earlier and harder than it hit the industrial areas, and lasted longer. If the Confederacy was still a primarily agrarian economy then they would have been hit as hard or harder than everyone else. With all the disruptions and dissatisfaction that the rest of the U.S. faced.

Fourth, and most importantly, Southerners are different than yankees and all you need to do is look a red state/blue state map from the last several elections to see it. We were conservative then, we're conservative now.

I don't think that's true. Especially the 'then' part.

Fifth, we would have had to remain constantly vigilant against subsequent invasion(s) from the north, meaning that we would have kept a strong standing army and navy and that every household would be armed to the teeth (kinda like they are now).

With the corresponding need for a large military-industrial complex, high government expenses to pay for it, and all the rest. How would the Confederacy fund it? Since they were supposed to be so opposed to tariffs and all.

759 posted on 04/21/2010 3:26:18 PM PDT by Drennan Whyte
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To: Drennan Whyte; cowboyway
Would it? The Preamble to the Confederate Constitution differed from the U.S. Constitution in that it was established "in order to form a permanent federal government..." While president, Jefferson Davis took a number of actions to reduce the rights of states to run their own show. I can't imagine that suddenly disappearing, especially in the face of a beaten and hostile U.S. on their northern border.

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That's Bullshit

The Preamble: We, the people of the Confederate States, each State acting in its sovereign and independent character,

Ignoring Language is your covens specialty! What is Sovereign?

sov•er•eign

—n.

3. a group or body of persons or a state having sovereign authority.

—adj.

1. belonging to or characteristic of a sovereign or sovereignty; royal. 2. having supreme rank, power, or authority. 3. supreme; preeminent; indisputable: a sovereign right. 4. greatest in degree; utmost or extreme. 5. being above all others in character, importance, excellence, etc. 6. efficacious; potent: a sovereign remedy.

781 posted on 04/22/2010 3:33:59 AM PDT by Idabilly (Oh, southern star how I wish you would shine.)
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To: Drennan Whyte
"in order to form a permanent federal government..."

A permanant federal government is a world of difference from a 'perpetual union'. You do understand the difference, right?

A case can be made that the Great Depression hit the farmers earlier and harder than it hit the industrial areas, and lasted longer. If the Confederacy was still a primarily agrarian economy then they would have been hit as hard or harder than everyone else.

I'm basing my assessment on writings from the era where people that lived on farms and had the means to subsist hardly knew that there was a depression going on. The fact is that most farmers were already 'poor'. I'm sure that the South would have felt some of it, such as a lower demand for agricultural products but I don't think that there would have been the massive unemployment, soup lines, homelessness, etc.

I don't think that's true. Especially the 'then' part.

Please elaborate.

How would the Confederacy fund it? Since they were supposed to be so opposed to tariffs and all.

Aw, c'mon. That's just silly. They would have funded it the way they funded 4 years of attempts to repel the heathen invaders from the north.

And as far as that tariff argument, well, that's just plain silly, too.

815 posted on 04/22/2010 9:18:27 AM PDT by cowboyway (Molon labe)
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