[Non-Sequitur]

That makes no sense at all. FDR was president decades BEFORE all of the other men you listed except Woodrow Wilson. How did the harm they caused prevent FDR from being reined in by the Supreme Court?

Southern hyperbole aside, Wilson and FDR did more to establish the concept of a big, intrusive government than anyone else. Without the support of the 'solid south' and it's leadership in the House and Senate would FDR have been able run amuck to the extent that he did? Without FDRs example, would LBJ or Carter or Clinton done the damage they did?

Since the rebellion we've had 9 Democrats in the White House. Five of them have been Southerners. A sixth wouldn't have been elected without the South. Without the damage done by them then the U.S. would be a much different place.

[Bigun]

Wilson and FDR did more to establish the concept of a big, intrusive government than anyone else.

The did plenty to be sure but the fellow who opened the doors through which they walked is none other than Mr. Lincoln and his entourage of leaders of failed socialist revolutions in Europe half a generation earlier who had left their countries one step ahead of the hangman and came here. Unfortunately, they did not leave their ideologies behind!

[central_va]

Whether or not a socialist is from the North or the South matters little because now it is the North that is bastion of liberal/socialist voting base. The monies spent on placating southern poverty would not be spent(wasted) in an independent South. Just wouldn't happen. johnson fooled the south in the 1960's, after that, the lesson was learned, at least below the mason-dixon.

The 1980 election ended the Demo stranglehold on dixie.