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To: SoothingDave
You are mixing up cause and effect. Also, I will quote your hero, in the butchers own words. He is such a liar who knows if this whopper was given in earnest:

I would save the Union. I would save it the shortest way under the Constitution. The sooner the national authority can be restored; the nearer the Union will be "the Union as it was." If there be those who would not save the Union, unless they could at the same time save slavery, I do not agree with them. If there be those who would not save the Union unless they could at the same time destroy slavery, I do not agree with them. My paramount object in this struggle is to save the Union, and is not either to save or to destroy slavery. If I could save the Union without freeing any slave I would do it, and if I could save it by freeing all the slaves I would do it; and if I could save it by freeing some and leaving others alone I would also do that. What I do about slavery, and the colored race, I do because I believe it helps to save the Union; and what I forbear, I forbear because I do not believe it would help to save the Union. I shall do less whenever I shall believe what I am doing hurts the cause, and I shall do more whenever I shall believe doing more will help the cause. I shall try to correct errors when shown to be errors; and I shall adopt new views so fast as they shall appear to be true views.

I have here stated my purpose according to my view of official duty; and I intend no modification of my oft-expressed personal wish that all men everywhere could be free. [7]

429 posted on 04/19/2010 5:36:28 PM PDT by central_va ( http://www.15thvirginia.org)
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To: central_va

Slavery led to secession. Lincoln wanted to end slavery, but would have accepted re-union that contained slavery to the places where it already existed. That meant no expansion into the new territories.

The South could not abide that. They needed to have slaves wherever they went. That’s why Kansas was bloody. That’s why the seccession.

That’s why they fought the war.


434 posted on 04/19/2010 5:50:22 PM PDT by SoothingDave
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