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To: mojitojoe
Lincoln was against social and political equality of the races, he opposed inter-racial marriages, supported the Illinois Constitution’s prohibition of immigration of blacks into the state, defended a slave owner who was seeking to retrieve his runaway slaves but never defended slaves or runaways themselves, and he was a lifelong advocate of colonization....of sending every last black person in the U.S. to Africa, Haiti, or central America.... anywhere but in the U.S.

Bullshit.

In August of 1852 Lincoln said “If I could save the Union without freeing any slave I would do it....what I do about slavery and the colored race, I do because I believe it helps to save the Union.”

1862. But the interesting thing about that quote is that at the time Lincoln was writing to Greeley he had already discussed his Emancipation Proclamation with his cabinet. Seward has wisely suggested Lincoln wait until after a Union victory before releasing it. Which, of course, was not long in coming.

Lincoln also said on September 18th, 1858, “I will say, then, that I am not, nor have I ever been, in favor of bringing about in any way the social and political equality of the white and black races.”

He also said, "I hold that, notwithstanding all this, there is no reason in the world why the negro is not entitled to all the natural rights enumerated in the Declaration of Independence-the right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. I hold that he is as much entitled to these as the white man. I agree with Judge Douglas he is not my equal in many respects-certainly not in color, perhaps not in moral or intellectual endowment. But in the right to eat the bread, without the leave of anybody else, which his own hand earns, he is my equal and the equal of Judge Douglas, and the equal of every living man."

For Lincoln, or anyone else, to even suggest to a Southerner that any black man was in any way their equal was an absolute anathema to them. Yet another reason why they hated the man.

In 1861 Lincoln was asked “why not let the South go in peace?” He replied by saying “I can’t let them go. Who would pay for the government?”

Apocryphal at best.

344 posted on 04/19/2010 3:57:13 PM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: Non-Sequitur

You can laud those spineless, gutless yankees that waged war on a third of the population to keep them chained, so that they could continue to plunder the states for their own benefit. Almost 95% of Southern wealth was plundered by yankees between 1861 and 1874, first by the morally superior yankee military looting Southern homes and women, then by military/reconstruction governments comprised of yankees that plundered state treasuries, actions that took almost a century to recover from. So post away from your moral high ground and condemn those that had the GUTS to secede, condemn those that joined their ancestors in desiring to live under a government of their choosing.


372 posted on 04/19/2010 4:51:44 PM PDT by mojitojoe (“Our leaders seek to pit us against one another, and torment us relentlessly."Mark Levin)
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To: Non-Sequitur

agree with Judge Douglas he is not my equal in many respects-certainly not in color, perhaps not in moral or intellectual endowment
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Well that is pretty vile dontcha think? Who dies and made Lincoln God? How dare he say that blacks have less moral character and are not as intellectually endowed as others.


589 posted on 04/20/2010 11:54:21 AM PDT by mojitojoe (“Our leaders seek to pit us against one another, and torment us relentlessly."Mark Levin)
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